Introduction is self explanatory. Support is for when we have no one left to turn to.

Introduction I would think is fine for the lounge..

Everyone has a moment when they break down, and not everyone has someone that’ll be there when it happens.

Introductions need to be separate to make it easier to refer to

The lounge isn’t a locked channel

Oh, you mean an introduction to men's rights? It wasn't self explanatory, I thought you meant people introducing themselves when they first come here

That’s what I mean

We’re a community. Instead of having to ask someone’s name, age, location, etc, it should be easy to find in a specific channel, like an intro.

Why would you want to lock an introduction channel

By locked I mean it serves a very specific purpose. No casual conversation

People will post there once and that’s it

Not everyone is gonna be comfortable giving all that info

Forget it

K. I seem to have arrgravated you in some way so I apologise

Well you could do it less with info and more just a Hi, and then what you are hoping to get out of the movement or just why you are here, that way it could be easier for everyone to be on the same page ?

An intro is an intro. I couldn’t care less about what people put in it.

But it should be there in case we need it.

If someone doesn’t want to write one, oh well. We aren’t kicking them out over it.

It’s there for people who want it

If someone were to have a breakdown, me for example, I wouldn’t want someone referring to me as Jango.

You wouldn’t want to be called Abbysol

Etc

Tbh I thought that was your real name

And I thought you where really an Insane Caterpillar 😮

I'm actually a cat. My avatars is a pic of me. Sometimes I think I'm a caterpillar cause I'm insane

See, it all makes sense now!

But in all honesty I do get what you are saying, but I think if things are that stressful you are probably better off going into DMs with someone, that little bit of privacy can help a lot if it is something that personal

Also since anyone can join the discord, it may not be that safe (though that would be in an extreme scenario, it is still a concern)

So what's your guy's opinions on #thotaudit

It’s pointless

The irs doesn’t handle personal cases

It still begs the question

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If sex work is real work why isn't it taxed?

A lot of things go untaxed

because it is unregulated

Doesn’t make it right

it should be regulated, it would make it safer for the sex workers too

I totally agree

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According to Phillip DeFranco the types of cam girls and Snapchat girls do have to pay taxes. If they aren't keeping a track of those earnings they're going to find themselves in trouble.

Cam girls and twitch streamers probably aren't that stupid. But I wouldn't put it past the odd Snapchat girl sending nudes to college frats.

As for prostitution. It's illegal anyway. The government don't collect taxes on drug money either, unless it's laundered.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a121ol/mom_is_preparing_6_year_old_trans_kid_for

The hell. Does anyone know any more about this ^

No but it looks insane if it's accurate

Whether it's accurate or not idk but it's definitely insane the way it's portrayed... If I can find out more about it and it is, then it wouldn't be the first thing that surprised me about how backwards the world can be

The article keeps using the dichotomy of what the child does when he's with Mom or what he does when he's with Dad. Nobody has independently talked to the child on their own. Or observed him in a neutral environ

Environment

Even if that's true, the courts are telling the father things like he can't choosevhis child's clothes for him, while the mother's taken him to some specialist and worked with them to diagnose him with gender disphoria based on her word

And I don't think it is true

"Eyewitness accounts from friends corroborate dad’s observations of James preferring to be a boy. Bill Lovell, the senior pastor of Christ Church Carrollton, wrote: “Based on the three occasions I’ve spent time with him, I’d say he acts and looks unmistakably like a healthy six-year-old boy. … I am praying for James, an average six-year-old boy, a sweet-natured, intelligent, lovable and at this point particularly vulnerable young man, caught up in a titanic clash of worldviews.”

Ellen Grigsby shared in an email her observations after meeting James and his fraternal twin brother for the first time: “They were both ‘all boy’ and were having a great time. Both boys were absolutely dressed as boys and behaving as boys.”

Sarah Scott is a family friend and mother of three boys who frequently play with James and his brother. She and her husband are sensitive to allowing James to lead the way in gender choices such as names, pronouns, and clothing. I asked her the obvious question: “How do you know James does not want to be a girl?” Sarah responded in an email with several examples she’s seen of James’ desire to remain a boy:

So depending on the situation I could see the use of the laws. Protecting a real transgender child from an abusive parent.

The issue comes from the family court bias against him as a father and nobody is willing to assess whether the mother is being vindictive

This is why a 3rd party evaluation should be the first go to

Without it is an explicit example of taking the mother's side over there father with no evidence other than what the mother has presented.

The issue being is I've seen that happen

I don't even get why children as young as six, *six* for the love of God are being diagnosed with gender disphoria. I mean wtf? And the courts and everyone else just goes along with it, ignoring the father for what reason? Because he exists? Would they do the same if he wasn't involved in the child's life at all? This story needs more publicity

Well the article makes it quite clear that there are strict criteria to diagnose gender dysphoria.

The problem here is the fact that there is conflicting evidence. Not whether or not the diagnoses exists in a wider context.

This is just completely ignoring the father which is A HUGE issue

You can't determine for yourself at 6 years old what gender you belong as

You literally can't

Like when I was that age, I jokingly wore my blanket as a dress and said I was a pretty girl

It was a big joke

God knows what would have happened to me if I was born today

I think it's stronger than that

But that being said I don't doubt that "progressive" parents may be too quick to jump on it

Like when you reach sexual maturity, maybe

But for Christ sakes, the kid's hormones haven't even kicked in yet

Like at least wait until 12-13

That's the point. Good or bad

And the mother plans to get him chemically castrated, he won't properly even reach sexual maturity.. and petitioned the court to have the father pay for all this much needed "therapy*"

*read: screwing your child up one session at a time

It honestly just makes me sick

Like, words can't really describe exactly how this story makes me feel

http://www.savejames.com/

There's some basic wording you can use to write to local officials regarding this if you are in the US

@Jango Harrison Support is a great idea. I don't know why I didn't think of it because nits one of the three major things every good forum has.

@Rai Amen to that. This is her deciding to 'customise' her son. Either to hurt dad or get leverage or just because she wanted a girl and got a boy.

Truly. And the fact it's all court sanctioned and nobody that is in charge bats an eye.

Urgh. Few things in the world make me want to strangle people like a court screwing up some child's entire life. I don't rate his survival chances.

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http://iwf.org/blog/2808066/Personal-Choices,-Not-Vast-Sexist-Conspiracies,-Explain-Unequal-Pay

Another one for the collection.

Eye roll*

Is there any word on what the "fix" might be?

This is the problem in grouping entire demographics together in this kind of way, it can’t just let people live and let live, if your goal is the whole with no vision of the individuals, then there is something wrong, some things are just better to live and let live

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I think we should all go after the BBC for this article: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a1f2mo/this_whole_bbc_article_is_written_as_though_men/

I don't think anyone should be able to access someone criminal history, men or women, besides police... It means that people cannot ever truly move on from bad things they have done in the past, or even have minor things held against them, including some things that may have been self defense (men are often charged if they defend themselves against women).

When someone is given a sentence and they complete that sentence they have paid their debt to society. Having something hanging over them their entire life, while also free and in society, makes it more likely they will commit more crimes. If you tell someone they are a monster, whether they actually are or not, they're more likely to act like one.

Say, does anyone remember a study where someone submitted the exact same schoolwork with different gendered names and found gender bias that way?

I think I remember that was a thing

but can't find it

Yes teaching bias. I don't have the article though.

I found a bunch of teaching bias studies (check the men-are-human channel), but that research largely points to bias against male classroom behaviors, rather than being straight up "oh, it sounds male, lets mark it down"

I suspect that most teaching bias can be explained that way

but I thought I remembered there was one study that couldn't quite be explained that way

@asparkofpyrokravte this may not be exactly what you are looking for but it's close https://www.ipp.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/n14-notesIPP-december2014.pdf

Oh shit, that's a really good source

Gave you a gold star for that one. 😄

If I get 5 stars can I is have a wowwipop?

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