Millions of people sincerely believe in the Christian God.

How many people sincerely believe in Odin? Ten?

Our concepts of gods are totally different. Yours is a master-slave relationship. You don't know anything about paganism. Oh, and are you trying to say that the more popular something is, the more right it is?

More people believe in socialism than capitalism. I guess socialism wins

You don't believe in the old gods.

Yours are a bunch of trannies, incestuous and they view you as cattle that can be raped or killed for all they care lmao.

You're no different that cosplayers who dress up as comic book characters.

but what relationship do pagans have with their gods? from every story ive read the pagan gods are ambivalent to humanity, use them as pawns, or rape them

Well, you guys never really figured out how myths work and you take old texts literally

>Implying modern pagans actually believe in their gods.

You just keep stating that, but what makes you think pagans don't believe in pagan gods

>Implying we don't know, we just like to hit you with your own standard.

so a cleft food god chasing after a young girl, jizzing on her, and a baby springing forth from her leg because of that is an allegory for what?

Because they don't.

Idk what you're talking about @Deleted User

Ok cool thomas

I think that's the god Pan?

hephestus i believe

I don't even know who that is

I'm not greek

Bro... What are your gods then?

a greek god, but almost every pagan god from one pagan religion has a parallel with each other

Odin, Thor, tyr, frejya, etc.

Holy shit, should I tell him?

....

Tell who what?

Trying to be condescending lol

do it

Odin the semen drinker who uses magic (a woman's art) and dies and Thor the crossdreser who dies.

Dude, you guys actually think a woman was impregnated without having sex. Don't even try to belittle the Norse mythology

Where is the pagan Thomas Aquinas? You don't have an intellectual tradition.

Right, the mythology just came out of nowhere. No intellect went into that. Just random words without meaning

Every criticism of Christianity has been addressed many times over for nearly two thousand years.

Lmao

What do you say in response to "the antichrist" by Nietzsche?

Christians are to white nationalism what lolberts are to libertarianism.

Nietzsche was an incel who was full of himself

his writings are simply a more eloquent way of saying "don't tell me what to do, mom"

Pretty bad argument

As if you've made a single good argument.

So you haven't read "the antichrist" then

Why should I?

It's a criticism of christianity.

Was western civilization built by Nietzschianism?

You said they've all been addressed

What are they then?

For one, it's very nihilistic. What happens in this world doesn't matter as much as individual salvation

Let's wait Thomas

And Nietzsche isn't nihilistic?

Until we have each one

he isn't actually

Stop with the adhom

Anything else?

He rails against nihilism in it

It doesn't matter how often you sin as long as you repent and believe, you are saved

Anything else?

I mean, ya. It's not a long book, but there's more in it than I've written here

the problem is that the repentance and belief has to be sincere for it to matter. you can't just use it as a get out of jail free card.

If those are the only 2 then it is my turn to respond.

Yes please respond. That's what I'm waiting on lol

It's still a problematic idea. It's like, i can kill someone but as long as I'm truly sorry, it's ok. That's kinda bizarre, because it's not like your thoughts in your own head are truly making up for the sin you committed

repentance isn't just feeling sorry about it

Pretty much though. You might pray and stuff but it's not like you have to go out into reality and actually address your crime.

1.- We start on this life until we may finally join with God ie: Pure actuality, as such our actions on this life shapes our soul (intelect) which after being free from human emotion will continue on and we will decide to be with him or not. It cannot be nihilistic since it Is very clear our actions matter for the life after.

2.-Even if you repent and are forgiven you will be punished (not as severely as if you had not) we see examples with the prodical son who after wasting all his money lived like a beggar. And also purgatory.

Your actions only matter in that it determines what the afterlife will be. So, it's as if what happens on earth doesn't matter, since this world is temporary.

Does it not matter what grades you have in high school when you are aplying to college?

Rather than excell in this world, the idea is to prepare for the afterlife. So, you can easily cop out of reality. And Christians do. Why try to make the world better when all you need to do is be faithful to Jesus and you'll be saved for eternity?

I'm not trying to convert anyone. Just don't be fags about paganism

Answer the question

Fag

>pagan calling someone else a fag

penis

I said just don't be fags about paganism. Not calling you a fag

And I said answer the question.

Why don't you just make your point?

the implication that we were being fags about this. i.e. you're calling us fags. I don't mind it, but have the nuts to own up to it

This life Is a crucial step for the hereafter, the great goal. It is like saying high school doesn't matter for getting into college. That is my point.

That's not what I meant but I can see that. I mean don't trash paganism. It's the native culture of Europe and I like it a lot more than the stuff imported from the middle east

I rather chose the true tradition.

How is something imported from the middle east the true tradition of europeans?

Truth is universal, 2+2=4, even TRUE TM euros knew this (Plato, Socrates, etc.) The pagans are if anything more in common with the modern world that anything.

I used to think the Christian afterlife was a good thing because it would make people want to live a certain way, but I'm realizing the implication is really that objective reality doesn't matter as much as personal salvation.

What? Pagans think 2 plus 2 is something other than 4?

We literally believe in objective truth and morality, that you are so drench in the Globohomo is not my problem.

I wasn't saying you don't believe in objective reality. I'm saying you believe salvation is more important.

You would rather have everyone have their own "truth" because that Is the TRUE euro tradition.

Salvation is a goal. There are other goals as well.

Sure, but it's a lot easier to "be saved" than to actually accomplish something.

You have no idea how hard it is to have standards for yourself, for others, "to be saved", do you?

Uh, you just have to think a certain way really. Is it not faith in Jesus as your savior that ultimately makes one saved or not?

No

You have to take action as well.

You're certainly encouraged to. But it's not like there's a score card telling you how you are doing. What's the objective measure? It boils down to someone deluding themselves into believing they are saved.

That's pretty nihilistic.

Heathen morality is based in reality in that actions have consequences and your honor is determined by your actions

You don't know that's why you should not take chances.

Ah, better worship the foreign cult cuz I might be wrong

Amazing you just define the most water down definition of morality

"Might" lol