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2018-01-27 02:16:30 UTC

I view Monarchy and Democracy as private property vs public property.

2018-01-27 02:16:36 UTC

Aydin brings up a central monarch, but I don't think she talked about barons or other lords

2018-01-27 02:18:13 UTC

so it could very well be that she's talking about just Monarchy. but even then that doesn't gel with the part in her vision where people exist in small communities of free people.

2018-01-27 02:18:24 UTC

that's not how that works

2018-01-27 02:19:21 UTC

There will ceartainly be people who'll be granted titles, but those can be taken away. And frankly the only thing in feudalism I don't like is the freedom of movement.

2018-01-27 02:23:11 UTC

and with the way the US economy works, primarily with an abnormally mobile workforce, you just couldn't get that sort of system to work without collapsing our whole economic system and starting over from a primarily agriculture-based economy

2018-01-27 02:24:14 UTC

>Implying if there were to be a new system the old one would stay as it is.

2018-01-27 02:25:24 UTC

well I don't think they consciously realize the radical change that would have to happen by the way they were talking about it.

2018-01-27 02:27:43 UTC

I think only the normies believe that it can be achieve without much trouble although it could be as they said "They are becoming further right wing"

2018-01-27 02:27:58 UTC

They are still new to this.

2018-01-27 02:29:40 UTC

Although @AydinPaladin I hope you stoped calling it Anarcho-monarchy. I swear to my finger.

2018-01-27 02:29:41 UTC

The path from normie, to actual thinking human is a long one, frought with peril and dead ends.

2018-01-27 02:30:15 UTC

Anarcho-Monarchy? fucking what?

2018-01-27 02:31:07 UTC

also, I didn't even realize she was in this discord. some mod I am

2018-01-27 02:31:41 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485988024320001/406637359606661131/unnamed.png

2018-01-27 03:24:48 UTC

"Anarcho-Monarchy" Lol so just a normal monarchy?

2018-01-27 03:27:48 UTC

depending on your definition of what a "normal" monarchy is

2018-01-27 03:46:45 UTC

The best goverment ever.

2018-01-27 03:59:18 UTC

>Die of plauge
>Executed for 'witchcraft'
>Taxed to living in mud huts

2018-01-27 04:01:11 UTC

>Not knowing we are taxed more today.

2018-01-27 04:02:21 UTC

>Die bc an atom bomb.

2018-01-27 04:04:47 UTC

>Die in the name of "Freedom"

2018-01-27 04:05:01 UTC

>NSA watching you fap

2018-01-27 04:05:20 UTC

>Child drag queens

2018-01-27 04:05:44 UTC

>Wars are becoming more barbaric

2018-01-27 04:06:56 UTC

because Atom bombs would be so much better in the hands of a monarch, I'm sure.

2018-01-27 04:07:13 UTC

imagine Wilhelm II with an A-bomb

2018-01-27 04:07:25 UTC

Bc a monarch looking to get more land would destroy that same land

2018-01-27 04:07:43 UTC

Not really interested in a debate about it atm, but I am interested in by what measure we are considered taxed more.

2018-01-27 04:08:07 UTC

Willy sure tried his hardest to destroy a good part of French land he wanted to take

2018-01-27 04:08:21 UTC

Also, if before anyone tries bringing up prima noctis. That was a bigger myth than smallpox blankets.

2018-01-27 04:09:12 UTC

and he could have easily nuked London. capital of a nation he did not care for and who's supremacy on the waves threatened his dreams of Weltpolitik

2018-01-27 04:11:30 UTC

Is it a philosophical war in his mind or an actual territorial war?

2018-01-27 04:12:47 UTC

a war for the very existence of the Kaiserreich. to Wilhelm, Britain was almost as evil as France

2018-01-27 04:13:05 UTC

Mate there is your answer.

2018-01-27 04:13:48 UTC

and he had no interest in occupying the British Isles as far as I know. if he had the ability to crush them and remove them from the war, I do not believe he would have hesitated

2018-01-27 04:13:59 UTC

When the US got in WWI it became a war of ideology Republic vs Monarchy, when it started as a territorial war.

2018-01-27 04:14:37 UTC

of course the French and British were quick to reframe the public image along similar lines

2018-01-27 04:15:48 UTC

I will not say there have never been bad kings such as King Louis X but they are far better than Wodrow Wilson for example.

2018-01-27 04:18:01 UTC

we can trade good examples and bad as much as we want. one of the problems with American politics is that we've given the chief executive to much power. We've made his office more like that of a king's as time has gone on. the difference between a bad president and a bad king is that there are more people to get in the way of a bad president's decision.

2018-01-27 04:23:30 UTC

I disagree, given than a King had to beg money for his wars while a president doesn't; a King can be controlled if they are unruly, mad, or bloodthirsty more often than a president than names his delusions as "The will of the people"; Kings are able too do much more good given that it is in his benefit to increase the current wealth and future wealth of his state; A president only thinks of the now.

2018-01-27 04:25:30 UTC

keep in mind that it was not the republics that declared war first in WWI

2018-01-27 04:25:38 UTC

Of course

2018-01-27 04:25:44 UTC

it took the US until 1917 to join

2018-01-27 04:26:32 UTC

But it ceartainly took a bitter turn when it got in, especially when it came to Germany.

2018-01-27 04:34:18 UTC

of course it did. all that fresh material bolstering Germany's enemies. some 2 million fresh troops sent to the Western front. it's no wonder the civilian government and the military (the Kaiser himself having fled to neutral Holland) agreed to the armistice.

2018-01-27 04:36:28 UTC

I was talking about the treaty of versailles.

2018-01-27 04:38:38 UTC

oh, you mean WIlson's 14 points that the French pissed on?

2018-01-27 04:40:51 UTC

You know what I'm trying to get, don't be coy.

2018-01-27 04:41:39 UTC

what are you getting at?

2018-01-27 04:42:57 UTC

What happened after WWI

2018-01-27 04:44:58 UTC

Germany's economic collapse caused in large part by the reparations, a brief revolutionary period (not in that order), the dissarmament of germany, the eventual rise of the Nazis, what is your point?

2018-01-27 04:45:53 UTC

Had Germany stayed as it was before WWI had that happened?

2018-01-27 04:46:30 UTC

are you trying to suggest that they wouldn't be disarmed under the Kaiserreich?

2018-01-27 04:46:37 UTC

Had Monarchy stayed in power had that happend?

2018-01-27 04:47:07 UTC

yes. why wouldn't it have? at any rate, the Monarch himself decided to abdicate.

2018-01-27 04:47:38 UTC

U sure?

2018-01-27 04:50:00 UTC

they didn't have much choice in the matter. sure, they could have told the allied powers to fuck themselves and continue prosecuting the war, but with the introduction of America and the revolts they were already dealing with, they would have risked going down the same path as Russia.

2018-01-27 04:51:31 UTC

And then they became degenerates and then natsocs.

2018-01-27 04:53:18 UTC

well we really have to ask ourselves which is worse, a united German-Russian Communist bloc or what we ended up getting instead.

2018-01-27 04:53:51 UTC

Neither really are good.

2018-01-27 04:55:50 UTC

but at least the Soviets and the Nazis expended a ton of their energy kicking the shit out of each other instead of focusing their attention elsewhere.

2018-01-27 04:58:16 UTC

and let's not forget who funded Lenin's return to Russia from exile.

2018-01-27 04:58:36 UTC

Who?

2018-01-27 04:59:00 UTC

Germany

2018-01-27 05:00:13 UTC

A country is not a person my dude

2018-01-27 05:00:50 UTC

what good is a king if he does not take responsibility for his country's actions?

2018-01-27 05:01:35 UTC

No, I'm saying name the person.

2018-01-27 05:05:56 UTC

I just want to make sure you know.

2018-01-27 05:12:35 UTC

I can't seem to find a specific person in the history book I have to hand. the most I get is a vague referrence to "German authorities"

2018-01-27 05:13:28 UTC

Oh well.

2018-01-27 06:45:36 UTC

Apparently according to historian Richard Pipes, who sources official documentation, the German foreign secretary, Richard von Kรผhlmann was either the man who came up with the idea or at the very least signed off on it. Additionally, the Germans, according to Eduard Bernstein, continued to send gold to the Bolsheviks between 1917 and 1918. As much as 50million deutsche marks.

2018-01-27 08:02:47 UTC

I can't seem to find the number, but I'll take your word for it.

2018-01-28 20:29:43 UTC

meanwhile Turkey is still extorting money from the EU in return for not releasing some 3.5 million refugees into Europe

2018-01-28 21:49:16 UTC

oy vey

2018-01-28 22:21:24 UTC
2018-01-28 22:22:01 UTC

Doesn't everyone use adblock anyhow?

2018-01-29 04:27:10 UTC

Don't give them clicks @Dinosorcerer

2018-01-29 21:49:10 UTC

We(Polish people) are very pissed of

2018-01-29 21:50:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485988024320001/407653761734017026/image.png

2018-01-29 21:50:38 UTC

It is Missclick

2018-01-29 22:29:30 UTC

Umm.. what does that say?

2018-01-29 22:30:25 UTC

It was talk with Polish anarchomonarchist, but I sent it accidentally

2018-01-29 22:35:31 UTC

She told me How country steals money from people and how much

2018-01-29 22:35:57 UTC

Polish politics is a big mess to be honest

2018-01-29 22:37:07 UTC

But do you feel it's more stable than the rest of Europe? Do you see economic and social growth besides that?

2018-01-29 22:38:51 UTC

I think that Poland is quite stable

2018-01-29 22:40:31 UTC

Exception is Switzerland in Western Europe

2018-01-29 22:40:37 UTC

Also

2018-01-29 22:40:48 UTC

Spain is very unstable

2018-01-29 22:45:00 UTC

You think Switzerland is more stable? What do you think they're doing right? And what should Poland implement in your opinion?

2018-01-29 22:48:08 UTC

Change the health care system for example one person have wait for medical operation for 13 years

2018-01-29 22:48:37 UTC

13 years?! What?!

2018-01-29 22:48:49 UTC

Yes

2018-01-29 22:49:06 UTC

Itโ€™s record but it is real

2018-01-29 22:49:08 UTC

What type of operation?

2018-01-29 22:50:50 UTC

Denture in knee

2018-01-29 22:51:33 UTC

Endoprosthesis

2018-01-29 22:52:52 UTC

It is caused by limits in national health fund

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