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This makes me cringe ๐
https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1330695850813775873
Was 2 months ago, but Trump โค https://youtu.be/uBQIQ9Q14VQ
Yes because we put blacks in concentration camps
Anyone wanna debate any non american politics
Or ideological and economic stuff.
right wing ideology and rhetoric is rubbish
it's predicated on fairytale economic concepts and theories that hold no weight in the real world
I would know speaking as a former 'classical liberal'
it sure was simpler back then, but unfortunately it doesn't address a slew of issues and assumes the free market (which is guaranteed by the government by the way) will fix everything
is everyone on here republican or ?
No
Nah. We got people of all views
ah alr just wanted to see the point of view of a republican
nah im a dirty centrist
"Dirty" ๐
yo anyone want to debate trans rights in here wif me
and some other stuff
involving lgbtqia+ community
Look at this propaganda they released
Lol so anyone who improves on an invention becomes the inventor.
Nice
No just if theyโre gay or black
yeah because screw minorities
if they did a good, no theyn didnt
No, it's a totally different thing to say "this person can be attributed to this invention" when all they did was improve on it. He patented the carbon filament ***not*** the lightbulb. To try and say thomas edison didn't invent the lightbulb is an absolute piss take.
You could argue and say it was Joseph Swan or even Humphry Davy who really invented the light bulb yet these are men who actually made something akin to the incandescent lightbulb but to say the man who patented the carbon filament, an improvement for a pre-existing invention, is the one who invented it?
That's like saying the man who invented grease or oil for playground slides invented the slide because he improved upon them.
Monark thatโs one of the most retarded things Iโve heard
Many blacks have contributed greatly, and Latimer contributed but he certainly wasnโt necessary
Who do you attribute with the cure for polio Jonas Salk or his lab assistant
The reason you don't learn about Lewis Latimer in school is because, in the grand scheme of things, he is a tiny blip on the history radar. Thomas Edison is taught because the light bulb was a life changing invention, regardless of who improved on it.
Edison also has hundreds upon hundred of inventions
Many of which arent even mentioned in schools because they're irrelevant in the grand scheme of history.
That he actually did solely invent only in his old age did he enlist new inventors for his inventions
I mean phonograph is cool
Movie camera
First viable projector
Man was pretty awesome too bad he fucked over others in his spare time
It's why you really only learn about Bell's telephone invention despite him also inventing plenty of things. Schools touch on other inventions but it's the major, life altering inventions that get the most attention in education.
If educators had to mention every single invention and improvement to said inventions, you would probably grow old and die on school.
Honestly government needs to get out of education in the way they are
Since the education departments founding in 1979 we dropped significantly in education
Plus the addition of common core in recent years
What a shit show that is
I don't think education should be privatized but at least let local or state governments handle it
I believe privatized schooling with limited government interference is also one of the best ways to handle it
Colleges only became as bad as they are now due to privatized business being able to take advantage of the government
I'm opposed to privatized schooling for the sole reason that it's the easiest way to push an agenda
Colleges being a fantastic example
I think states should regulate curriculum, but I also think that private schooling is important
I mean Iโm becoming a realtor for the soul reason schools suck and they donโt allow me freedom
Financially or career wise
Our education system is fucked
sorry i say very dumbass stuff when im tired af and barely concious
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I don't like the idea of regulating curriculum
Less regulations. More freedoms
^It winds up in teachers teaching to the tests. I know Iโm going to catch hell for saying this cause this opinion is unpopular asf....
The best way to ensure public education is of quality is having its employees more accountable for their work. After teachers get tenure they are nearly impossible to fire. This drives down competition and allows them to coast rather than put in maximum effort. Yes I get students may not all learn at equal rates and that could reflect poorly on a teacher... but why not just accept this for new teachers and hold a record of longer history accountable? History meaning taking into account the location and performance of other educators in that environment. Also public education is not underfunded but mis-allocated. Superintendents make like 10 salaries worth of a teacher, yet are incredibly less impactful on the quality of learning of the actual student. Overfunded school bureaucracy leads to top down fund allocation that doesnt help learning. If that funding for a superintendent was distributed to the teachers, there would be much more incentive to be a teacher and perform well while less need for anti-productive incentives like tenure.
oops posted in wrong channel, im in voice chat if anyone wants to talk about the scotus ruling
Whoโs ready for another go at constant war and higher and higher taxes
I hate what our once beautiful nation has become, a bunch of idiots who think because Biden says he wonโt tax the middle class or lower class means he wonโt.
I blame the faulty education system which teaches false ideals to impressionable children
That breed our modern form of stupidity
Iโm truly worried weโre down our darkest path, one of a career politician bending the United States over to be fucked by the world
Trump gave hope, Biden gives fear and treachery
There aren't many free thinkers left in our world
Too many people just repeat the same shit they hear on tv or see on facebook/twitter
bro? lmfaoooo
Someoneโs a traitor
And an idiot
@JOHNHANCOCKSGHOST lmfao
Let me guess Democrat
yes
Sad
why?
You support the subjugation of the American people by corporations and foreign nations.
you don't even know the specifications of my beliefs and you are already making accusations
thats tuff bro
You support the democrats and that says enough
mhm
biden is much better than trump
Whyโs that?
1. covid plan
2. tax plan
3. believes in science
4. pays attention to minorities and lgbtq
for me its mainly #3 tho
1.Same plan as Trump 2.Will cost Americans far more than what they pay now, and his plan includes restricting the market to the point where small companies canโt compete.
3.Doesnโt give a shit about science just whatever his superiors tell him 4.Doesnโt give a damn about either, minorities donโt need any attention and fuck the lgbtq dumbasses
What we need to do is get rid of welfare and prevent dependence on the state, offer chances for success if you donโt take them you deserve to starve.
1. trump doesnt even have a covid plan have you seen his rallies
2. no he is only raising taxes on people making $400k+
3. LMAO quote from donald "science doesnt know" Biden already said he will have scientists leading the covid team and focus on climate change which trump doesnt even believe in
4. fuck the lgbtq dumbasses? wow thats a bit harsh sir
what about the people that are working 3 jobs that cant provide for their family
do they deserve to starve?
If they canโt maintain themselves yes
I have republican friends that support trump but they get by because of welfare
Shouldnโt fuck like rabbits
If you canโt sustain yourself, but have children you donโt deserve the children
hmmm
Also if you know anything youโd know you canโt just use taxes like that, trickle down economics only work in the reverse
I donโt feel like talking details specifically and this article sums up what will happen fairly well
okay i will read it
i dont know much about taxes
i dont even pay them im not old enough
i just know the rich make way too much
Well man Iโll say Iโm sorry, normally I listen to others opinion before going at their throat. This year just made my blood boil that most who voted Biden did it to spite Trump, and have no idea the ramifications of a Biden presidency
yeah
well in my opinion trump was pretty terrible
I cant vote but yeah
How I see it is the American people are being traded away to foreign states. Biden wants leniency on China which will once again force away many US jobs, and allow for further Chinese supremacy in our markets. I donโt think the United States should be focused on something as trivial as the respect of foreign nations who have taken advantage of us for 40 years. Trumps deregulation of certain sectors has allowed further diversity within the market and has lowered the power of major corporations over said sectors. While he offers tax breaks often times said tax breaks encourage growth in stagnant areas. Our medical costs have only been as expensive as they are due to the limiting of the medical market allowing companies to raise the price far past the actual value. Democrats have almost every major corporation backing them as well as the entertainment industry and the media behind them. These companies only support the dems due to the regulations they propose which will allow the further growth of said major companies.
I donโt like how crass Trump is and he can certainly be a jackass, but as far as Iโm concerned heโs the best option because he has moved to prevent monopolies and foreign control over the nation.
@JOHNHANCOCKSGHOST it seems that republicans only care about the economy
Early on in covid when we should have had a major lockdown with no going out etc, everyone freaked out about the economy but if we had just done it for a few weeks 300,000 lives would have been saved
Wait @Subarctic why cant you vote?
Yeah you're a kid. In an 18+ server.
Lol
Disagree. Lockdowns don't work. We're living in the best case scenario bc the virus was going to rip thru no matter what
He left
Hes a kid
Def didn't know what he's talking about.
Lockdowns do a lot of damage. The econony affects the standards of living. Puts food on the stable and roofs over your head. Why wouldnt we care about that? Everyone should
The lockdowns are causing a worsening emotional state for too many as well
Reports are coming out from national and international health orgs now saying lockdowns could be having an even worse effect on individuals physical/mental health than the virus itself.
A friend of mine just killed himself a few days ago due to not being able to support himself, the lockdown kills
Im so sorry to hear that
Dems think of the simplest solution and then act like itโs the best, Trump informed all the states who would be impacted and left the decision up to them. If he had used his power to shut down the nation the economy wouldโve crumbled faster and they would brand him as a tyrant. Thereโs no winning with the left
@JOHNHANCOCKSGHOST#3975 JOH
I'm sorry for your loss. You're friend didn't deserve to be put in that situation. I hope the family is doing alright.
@JOHNHANCOCKSGHOST yeah as a conservative thatโs BS
We should have been shut down throughout may and they should have been paying us every month this entire time til August so we would have enough money as citizens to last the rest of the year with bear essentials while jobs werenโt hiring
As a conservative, all I heard from my own party was that Masks donโt save lives and that itโs infringing on the rights of Americans when the Supreme Court ruled on that back in 1921
And said it was perfectly acceptable for the government to have a mask mandate when it comes to a public health crisis like we have had
Also, notice how the newly disabled has been left in the dust by all of this. Everyone who has gotten disabled the last 7 months havenโt been able to start on Disability because of the massive backload. Where is the financial relief for those who canโt work because of their heart condition that they got due to having covid? Instead they are told itโs gonna be forever while they struggle to even feed themselves
Meanwhile, more than a billion of our tax payer dollars are going to Isreal
Typical Jews
They get 2000$ dollars while we get 600$
Awsome
Watching all these republicans vote no for 2,000 dollars but they are just fine with giving Isreal billions
Clearly they are nothing but a bunch of puppets for the Jews
1) on the whole...If you are actually conservative you do not support gov intervention to the extent you do- especially with stimulus
2) Its not challenging mask mandate but the need for one when 99% of people survive COVID 19.5 million cases in us and 335 thousand deaths. Governments can declare national emergency for just about anything and infringe on our rights if we let craziness go on like this without challenging. 300,000 people die each year for obesity- you dont see governors shutting down sales of unhealthy food. 606,000 die from cancer in the usa each year, you dont see governors shutting down sales of carcinogenic products. Thatโs cause thereโs hundreds of millions in the country.
3) US funding to Israel is almost exclusively military. Donโt be naive, Israel is a front of the cold war as is afghanistan who the soviets occupied before us. Since Israelโs founding in 1948 it has been involved in 8 large scale wars, not including constant terror. In each of these Israel is surrounded by attackers and outnumbered at huge odds, facing multiple larger countries. Do some research and learn about the six day war, suez crisis, yom kippur war, ect. In these wars israel faces larger Syrian, Egyptian, Jordanian forces all at once. Guess who provides military funding for those countries? Yeah thatโs right- Russia. Israel with mostly out of date american ww2 sherman and a handful of patton tanks were taking on brand new russian tanks in battle for sanai
It is conceivable to think the US has an obligation to that region when it is an ally and has been under attack every single decade since its founding
The constant slandering of Israel in todayโs narratives I blame the education system for. Kids are not taught real history anymore. If the US drops aid Israel will be the site of ww3 now that they have nukes. Without the resources to defend themselves they will be forced to nuclear deterrent and weโre all dead. Seriously.
https://youtu.be/x_89139WKho
Fyi this is what israel classifies as โterrorโ. Here in the US we fret over a couple of suicide bombings. Imagine if the us had to launch 300 rockets over the past couple years alone to try to intercept ballistic missiles. It puts things in perspective. Iโm sick of all the ignorant conceded isolationists who dont know anything talking shit on israel with the anti-semitics. Itโs disgusting. Iโm not normally this abrupt when discussing with people, but this whole narrative of just leaving israel for dead when we will be next is ignorant and morally inconceivable.
The day they filmed that alone 80 rockets were fired at israel...
poor poor israel.
Yeah
Exactly
No sarcasm
The runt of the earth
Another anti-Semitic... figures
If we had to choose between islam and judaism, id choose judaism every time
I wish people like you could live there for just a week
Me
?
Youd change your views lightning fast
Im sure Israel has many issues but they arent the terrorists theyre claimed to be
Yeah
The us didnโt even get involved in most all of those 8 wars fyi... and weโre allies
We just funded military supplies... which costs money
Y'all Jew lovers?
*jew defender. I believe in supporting our allies, especially when they are fighting our cold war with Russia.
Jews steal your children's foreskin
Funny
We aren't in a Cold War with Russia either
It's China
Dont be naive, read what I said up there- we are in a cold war with both.
Well but taking care of Russia would be far easier
Their country is so corrupt that no one would want to fight us
Their army is dwarfed against us in manpower, logistics, and technology
Oh sure... lets attack a nuclear power that has more nukes than us pfft
Denoate a nuke above them to destroy their electronics
Emp
They can't launch their nukes then
Military computers are protected against emp
Launch codes can be sent manually as well
Pfft
Well then hack their facility and intercept launch codes
Lol sure buddy, sure
Yes
Russian technology is super behind
I bet they still use the good old ddos attack
We moved on from that
We hacked a nuclear
power plant in Iran and handicapped it
Lol youโre comparing iranian technology to russian
Cant make this stuff up๐๐๐
Yes
Iran probably has same nuclear technology as Russia maybe years behind because of stuxnet attack
Also we developed probably secret cyber warfare in case of war
This is peace time
So Russia is so corrupt that Russian soldiers do work on mansions on powerful people instead of proper training
Russia, has a hypersonic missile that can take out an area the size of texas in one blow *has same technology as Iran*๐
We still have better cyber warfare technology so does it really matter?
The CIA is also known for assassinations so there's that
Well guess what
That flying dildo won't make it to Korea
Bruh that's a sex toy not a icbm
LMFAOOO
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Nuclear explosions are a safe form of clean energy
Not for the Japanese
do vests count as shirts or not
no
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