(DM) ND - William OK & Alan MI

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Alan MI @PF-626733

I'd like to speak with you about @Victor IN when you get a chance.

Regarding what?

Alan MI @PF-626733

I ended up being the one taking him back to Indiana, and all the information he gave me was that you removed him from your travel party right before leaving the campsite. I wanted to hear your side because I'm assuming theres more to the story then you leaving him with zero idea of who is taking him home without good reason.

Alan MI @PF-626733

if you wanna talk on mumble I can

I didn’t remove him from anything. I rode on the MO bus from St. Louis to the campsite along with the majority of my network. We were all left stranded halfway across the country with no way home. I understand his frustration, but I didn’t abandon him or anyone else. We were literally the last people to leave the DC area. We had no transportation, no wallets (they were all taken from the campsite when we were unable to return.)

Alan MI @PF-626733

He stated to me that he came with you guys but didn't come with MO. What exactly did you tell him?

Alan MI @PF-626733

or did you not tell him anything?

Alan MI @PF-626733

He for some reason told me that he was told by "the Oklahoma guys" that he couldn't ride with you back home.

No one was turned away by us. I had to buy a plane ticket to get home because there wasn’t enough room in the rental van for me.

This may have happened, but I wasn’t aware of it and no one told me that someone else needed a ride.

Alan MI @PF-626733

Interesting, I have no idea where his story is coming from then. Everyone who has interacted with him has generally considered him incompetent and obnoxious, so this further confirms his inability to make reasonable decisions or problem solve.

Alan MI @PF-626733

Believe me, I'm far more apt to believe you than him.

Like I said, we were the last group out of DC, we took all the stragglers. I don’t know what he’s talking about, but if you or he wants to discuss it we can have a voice meeting whenever it is convenient.

Alan MI @PF-626733

That won't be necessary, I'm pretty sure hes just an idiot who took the first ride someone volunteered to give in the general direction of Indiana rather than actually figuring out what his original travel party was doing.
When did the MO/OK group leave the DC area? We left pretty late too, and your rental vans actually ended up ahead of us later on Sunday funnily enough.

We left Sunday night, we closed up camp. Not by choice. We were stranded. We all rode up on the bus that was totaled.

Alan MI @PF-626733

I'm very confused now because @Kyle MO told us that his group was in Indiana by like 8pm Sunday I think

I don’t know if he’s an idiot or not, but we didn’t turn anyone away. If he needed to get home and asked us for help, we would have helped him get home.

Alan MI @PF-626733

because we were trying to somehow get @Victor IN back with that group to avoid taking him all the way home

Alan MI @PF-626733

I 100% believe you I'm just trying to figure out what exactly happened, because the degree of his incompetence may have an impact on whether or not he is kicked from the orgnization.

I got on a plane at 7:15 pm Sunday night. My network left right after they dropped me off at the airport.

Alan MI @PF-626733

with the MO guys or separately?

By myself. The MO guys left the night before, they rented vans and left. There was no room for us.

We didn’t abandon your friend. I promise.

Alan MI @PF-626733

I understand now, so your guys drove back to Oklahoma Sunday night. That makes sense. I was confused because I was assuming your two networks left together as well.

Alan MI @PF-626733

Trust me, thats not what I'm thinking

If anything, the MO guys abandoned us. But I am not going to complain about that. Everyone is home safe and that’s all that matters to me.

Alan MI @PF-626733

Agreed, now I understand your side of the story. It sounds like he just genuinely had no idea what was going on and knew that his travel party wasn't at camp. Still, he should have properly communicated with @Thomas to figure out what you guys were doing. Thank you for this information its been very helpful

No problem, I’m going to hit the sack. Take care.

Alan MI @PF-626733

you too buddy, goodnight

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