(DM) Jason NY & Thomas & Benjamin WI & Sam MN & Norman WI & ND - Lawrence FL

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Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Hi guys, we met with Interviewee-420224 last night, IMO it is a no-go with this guy and I will type up my notes tonight and Norman can expand on them if needed.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

We arrived at the interview location and met the interviewee. He speaks with either a lisp, or some impediment. He gave an exceptionally limp handshake after I approached and reached out 2x. He seems exceptionally socially awkward, lacking self-confidence and struggled to keep any normal conversation going. His answers to a few of our questions were somewhat strange (describing recent memes from TG), but he seemed to have some other answers that made sense (his first content related to National Alliance videos). He doesn't have a car and walks everywhere, and would be in his area alone.

We gotta pass on this guy, because I honestly don't think he would be safe out stickering and if caught he would probably suffer significantly and face a very uncertain future. Honestly, I feel terrible for this guy because it seems like his father has passed away, and his mother moved away but he doesn't know where. It is a shame that we don't have some kind of "rehab" group for him to help socialize him or something but at this point WI can't take it on, we are all hours away from this guy. It is unfair to just give him stickers and leave him there alone. IMO this guy needs someone to take him under their wing and help guide him.

He did indicate that he plans to move to FL in a couple months, somewhere around Jacksonville.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

I added @ND - Lawrence FL because I believe you worked with some guys in the past maybe?

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

On a personal note, this was a depressing vetting because man this kid is literally alone in Milwaukee, which is one of the shittiest cities out there. I can imagine this kid struggling in life if nobody steps up to help guide him, get some self confidence, maybe break some bad habits / excuse making, etc.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

@Norman WI Anything to add or anything you disagree with?

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Let me add that he was extremely prompt in replying to messages when setting up the vetting, he did arrive ontime, walked 45 mins to get to the vetting location, and said he would do any tasks the group needs. So better than some of the other guys that can't even respond to simple messages to setup a vetting location.

Thomas @thomas

If he's a no go then that's about all we need to know.

Thomas @thomas

We can't risk guys we have for guys we could have.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Yep i just don't see a bright future for this guy.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Anyway just tell him because he doesn't have a car and would be all alone there we don't think it is a good fit.

Norman WI @PF-3522

Ben, you did a good job summarizing the experience. The kid seems to have his heart in the right place, wants to self-improve and stated multiple times he was willing to do whatever was needed to help; but I had difficulty interviewing him because he couldn't hold a conversation really. I hope the best for him, but his situation is indeed depressing.

I'd be willing to at least meet him if he comes to Jacksonville. However, if he really is that broken, then it might be right to pass over him for now.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Ok who contacts him now to tell him this?

Tell him what you told us.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Ok will do.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

Ok i told him but i am going to try to get him doing some stuff and work with him and Lawrence you can meet with him in Feb in FL. So lets keep his interview account active please.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

I am gonna come up with some plan and will message Lawrence directly on it.

Sam MN @PF-173220

Good idea, I think it’s within our abilities to turn around anxious and uncertain people. Brotherhoods are the best thing for it

Jason NY @PF-3527

His interview account will expire, he will have to re-apply

Sam MN @PF-173220

If we were to hang out with him, get him working out, and raise his confidence, he could very well turn him into a solid activist. It seems like he is very willing to improve and dedicated.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

My plan is to see what i can do in the next 3 months with him and see how motivated he is. If he really works hard he can turn it around.

Benjamin WI @PF-8943

And if this works i will document the process so it can be repeated.

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