Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-08 00:05:02 UTC  

We don't want the number to grow at a rate we can't manage.

2018-09-08 00:05:13 UTC  

So that is why we have two agencies.

2018-09-08 00:05:21 UTC  

Ice who finds and deports those inside United States.

2018-09-08 00:05:30 UTC  

And Border Patrol who keeps people from getting in.

2018-09-08 00:05:38 UTC  

The Border Wall help add a third layer to those defense.s

2018-09-08 00:05:59 UTC  

Or helps replace aging border walls that are partially complete or decaying.

2018-09-08 00:19:30 UTC  

I dunno, the thing for the wall for me is it just does not seem practical or effective for what it is trying to accomplish, it's effectiveness against illegal immigration is as far as I can tell utterly overblown.

2018-09-08 00:22:06 UTC  

Also let us not forget the Anarchist bombings in the US that threw more oil on that fire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_United_States_anarchist_bombings

2018-09-08 00:25:43 UTC  

Whoops, I confused the Red Scare With the Red Terror, that is a bit embarrassing.

2018-09-08 00:26:38 UTC  

pretty crazy tho... lenin survived a shot in the neck

2018-09-08 00:28:39 UTC  

I always wonder what a USSR under Leon Trotsky rather than Stalin would be like considering how badly Lenin did not want Stalin running the show.

2018-09-08 00:29:53 UTC  

Lenin was no saint. Plenty of blood on his hands. Communists have done a bang-up job of sanitizing the record though.

2018-09-08 00:31:33 UTC  

"Comrades! The kulak uprising in your five districts must be crushed without pity ... You must make example of these people. (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. (4) Single out the hostages per my instructions in yesterday's telegram. Do all this so that for miles around people see it all, understand it, tremble, and tell themselves that we are killing the bloodthirsty kulaks and that we will continue to do so ... Yours, Lenin. P.S. Find tougher people."

2018-09-08 00:32:24 UTC  

They heap all the blame on Stalin in order to cleanse Lenin and Trotsky and canonize them.

2018-09-08 00:32:38 UTC  

But they're all the same type of monster.

2018-09-08 00:33:51 UTC  

You know, one of the worst things the Germans in WW1 seemed to have done is sending the Communist revolutionaries into Russia.

2018-09-08 00:35:20 UTC  

Though the WW1 Germans also carried out collective punishments on their enemies' civilian populations.

2018-09-08 00:36:15 UTC  

One of the worst things the Germans in WW1 did was not shoot von Hotzendorf and take command of the Austro-Hungarian army.

2018-09-08 00:38:14 UTC  

I have a lot of unconventional thoughts with respect to WW1.

2018-09-08 00:38:39 UTC  

Most of them involve shooting von Hotzendorf.

2018-09-08 00:39:12 UTC  

Is shooting Hotzendorf for strategical error or for humanitarian disasters under him?

2018-09-08 00:40:17 UTC  

Pretty much the entire war can be blamed on his incessant war-mongering and criminal incompetence.

2018-09-08 00:41:41 UTC  

Military generals of Nazi Germany were military genius... :\

2018-09-08 00:41:46 UTC  

I hate to admit.

2018-09-08 00:41:59 UTC  

Begrudingly I have to give them credit for today's military tactics.

2018-09-08 00:42:16 UTC  

We use their blitz tactics for our tanks.

2018-09-08 00:42:21 UTC  

"The hawkish Conrad, a pure social Darwinist, was spoiling for a war to smash the Serbs. According to Strachan, Conrad urged war on Serbia 26 times between Jan. 1, 1913, and June 1, 1914. Conrad hated Russia too, which supported Serbs because they were fellow ethnic Slavs."

2018-09-08 00:43:08 UTC  

You know... a lot of military geniuses were from empires lead by evil people.

2018-09-08 00:43:11 UTC  

Wrote constant letters to the Emperor advocating war, and the only guy who would argue against him was shot by a Serb.

2018-09-08 00:45:34 UTC  

On the German side of things, they went along with von Hotzendorf's warmongering because they wanted an excuse to cripple Russia before they could fully industrialize. And their pre-war assessment was completely correct: had Russia been left to their own devices in ten years the Germans would not be able to defeat them.

2018-09-08 00:45:53 UTC  

Though I know one of the biggest issues the Nazis suffered was the detrimental degree they valued ethnic & political purity, so they ended putting Nazis in charge of things, not because they were competent, but because they were Nazis, the air force was one of them suffered for this.

2018-09-08 00:47:06 UTC  

Also let us not forget how many talented Jews they decided to eject or imprison or massacre.

2018-09-08 00:47:28 UTC  

If the Austro-Hungarians and Turks not been complete clown shows the Triple Alliance would've won. And had that happened we wouldn't have had any Nazis or Commies.

2018-09-08 00:48:39 UTC  

Oh I didn't know this...

2018-09-08 00:48:46 UTC  

Get past the bashing of Democrats for the election thing.

2018-09-08 00:48:59 UTC  

Then I found out that all Democrats on the senate at the time during 2014.