Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-08 22:26:39 UTC  

😄

2018-09-08 22:26:40 UTC  

np

2018-09-08 22:26:48 UTC  

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2018-09-08 22:27:04 UTC  

<:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-09-08 22:27:20 UTC  

Ever done a bunch of drugs and had an out-of-body experience?

2018-09-08 22:27:33 UTC  

I am a recovering addict so I have had a couple of those

2018-09-08 22:27:34 UTC  

Some people might feel like that all the time.

2018-09-08 22:27:36 UTC  

I know it's you Rogan, no need to hide

2018-09-08 22:27:44 UTC  

lol

2018-09-08 22:27:49 UTC  

particularly relating to research chems (2C__) and Dextromethorphan

2018-09-08 22:27:57 UTC  

And that doesn't mean they're unconscious or not having subjective experience.

2018-09-08 22:28:17 UTC  

At the time it's occurring it's 100% real (to me at least)

2018-09-08 22:28:20 UTC  

buddy system is hamilton morris

2018-09-08 22:28:24 UTC  

I did a bunch of DMT and got scared I was actually making myself stupid so I stopped.

2018-09-08 22:28:36 UTC  

heh, nah

2018-09-08 22:28:41 UTC  

ive only really done shrooms a bunch

2018-09-08 22:28:51 UTC  

I overdosed on weed

it was awesome

2018-09-08 22:28:53 UTC  

and its more of a unlocking of the mental floodgates for me

2018-09-08 22:28:54 UTC  

I'm a chronic pain sufferer so I've made some...not too great decisions when my care was being inadequately handled

2018-09-08 22:29:38 UTC  

That being said, Atkins I am sorta trying to go back and get a feel for what the discussion is about

2018-09-08 22:29:39 UTC  

I have a pet theory that people with different modes of consciousness than the one I experience are more susceptible to post-modernism.

2018-09-08 22:30:07 UTC  

The concept of "social construction" is a very, very real thing to them.

2018-09-08 22:30:27 UTC  

That's interesting to me because I mainly focus on the construction of my own behavior

2018-09-08 22:30:33 UTC  

They operate as if reality is arrived at by consensus and altering the consensus alters reality.

2018-09-08 22:30:41 UTC  

Yes, it can relate to others in real time, but that doesn't mean it's composed of others

2018-09-08 22:31:01 UTC  

That seems like confirmation bias or availability heuristics to me

2018-09-08 22:31:07 UTC  

the thing is it is real. but its a matter of how you work with that information.

2018-09-08 22:31:13 UTC  

"This is what I see, hear, and say, and so it must be"

2018-09-08 22:33:02 UTC  

I agree, but I tend to view things as more of...say...individual consciousnesses interacting in a realtime stage as opposed to the conglomeration of all those being the truth

2018-09-08 22:33:23 UTC  

the environment and our own personal reactions to it are still entirely valid regardless of the hivemind

2018-09-08 22:33:28 UTC  

its a symbiotic relationship

2018-09-08 22:33:51 UTC  

that's a good way to put it

2018-09-08 22:34:06 UTC  

There's a lot to be learned from others as well as introspection

2018-09-08 22:34:12 UTC  

as elon pointed out on rogan, you NEED other people to retain sanity.

2018-09-08 22:34:27 UTC  

if you go live alone in the woods for 1 year. you will lose your mind

2018-09-08 22:35:06 UTC  

Or you will revert to bicameralism.

2018-09-08 22:35:08 UTC  

Concerning Tim's video on Nike, he uses L2 as a source. I watched Galloways video last week on Nike and I didn't agree with his arguments then either. Like Tim said, reputation is more important than fleeting sales (in the long run). The loss of value to your company due to loss of reputation is incalculable

2018-09-08 22:35:28 UTC  

I haven't ever spent an entire year in isolation, but after my injury I had to move into my mom and brother's place and spent close to 9 months only interacting with ppl via the internet as I was unable to walk or travel. It's incredibly taxing on the mind.

2018-09-08 22:35:30 UTC  

You will argue with yourself aloud.

2018-09-08 22:35:46 UTC  

oh my god, yes @Atkins

2018-09-08 22:35:55 UTC  

And then, out loud, I scold myself