Message from @RyeNorth
Discord ID: 489496132020338688
Because you shat in the punchbowl.
I'm not going to talk with you about it.
For the same reasons I just gave blackhawk.
I can understand that
Afterall if someone were able to refute the points after watching for less than 6 minutes your reasons would look pretty dumb
Because you can't handle disagreement?
Because I broke your rules?
Because I set standards at the beginning, and you violated them.
You can go back and read what I posted under the link.
No one can deny I said all that shit.
**Fuck you.**
So because I disagree fundamentally on the role of government and oppose the 'great society'
So argue with someone else.
1) cost of living is not 10k, welfare is more than cost of living
2) not including kids doesn't make any sense, since they still cost money and you're knocking out the systems governments use to incentivize childrearing
3) there's no reason to believe fraud would not still occur
4) rent is not the primary method of real estate cash accumulation
5) ignores the reasons for high healthcare cost in the US
6) military meme https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-military-budget-components-challenges-growth-3306320
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/U.S._Federal_Spending.png/800px-U.S._Federal_Spending.png
Why would you include kids?
Because kids are citizens with a cost of living
```3) there's no reason to believe fraud would not still occur```
???
Alright?
Did you know the reason there are carvings on the sides of coins?
He made some valid points as to why it's debatably better than current social programs
Because people used to whittle away at them and making counterfeit coins out of the real material.
>we save money by not having to deal with bureaucracy due to fraud, making sure people get their cash
>no reasons why UBI avoids this
Well, it's universal.
The inflation and trickle down thing is a whole nother list
Appapappa
Stop
It's universal. How can you fraud it? You're a person.
"My dead grandmother isn't dead lol"
Presumably it compacts the numerous programs into one streamlined social program
People already do that shit
Collect cheques from dead people
That's why it would 'save money'
Welfare has so many other conditions.
It's really nosey why you qualify or why you don't.
If you're divorced you make more, for example.
Yes, but there's a difference between "save money on" and "doesn't need"
UBI doesn't have that level of minutiae.
Are you denying that these things are important.
Really.
You still need admin, and a lot of it
Not as much, right?