Message from @Rabbi Shekels

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2018-09-20 12:16:08 UTC  

@Abel he did i memba dat and trump cant ban people so why is twatter allowed to ? And dont give me its their platform bs

2018-09-20 12:17:06 UTC  

It's not just "a platform" when there's literally no serious competition

2018-09-20 12:17:21 UTC  

It's the *only* platform

2018-09-20 12:17:50 UTC  

IMO, no one should be banned unless they post something actually illegal.

2018-09-20 12:18:20 UTC  

💯 agree ^

2018-09-20 12:20:16 UTC  

I like exclusivity of smart people.

2018-09-20 12:20:19 UTC  

So what happens if I want to start a twitter for Christian fundamentalist. It's designed to be a bubble, I don't want any disagreement to happen on my site. Am I allowed to ban ppl? Where dose your rule stand with freedom of association?

2018-09-20 12:20:23 UTC  

But that should be for more specific ENCLAVES.

2018-09-20 12:20:40 UTC  

To ban someone from the entire service is a little ridiculous.

2018-09-20 12:20:50 UTC  

It's the equivalent of banning someone from THE FORMAT of all forums.

2018-09-20 12:20:56 UTC  

That's how big these services are now.

2018-09-20 12:21:09 UTC  

They're the equivalent of every forum in the world combining into a giant ultra-forum.

2018-09-20 12:21:57 UTC  

Twitter wants to be known as a public utility.

2018-09-20 12:22:13 UTC  

The second it said that, it should've relinquished its rights to ban whoever they wanted.

2018-09-20 12:22:52 UTC  

And regulating them means regulating any start ups to the same degree. It could very well cement them as the public square. The only people that want that are Big Tech and the government.

2018-09-20 12:24:11 UTC  

Telling you, repeal section 230

2018-09-20 12:24:26 UTC  

II would much rather see these sites fall by their own hand so the next sites to rise don't make the same mistake. YT and Twitter could very easily say that they need more gov hand outs to protect the service. This is not good for compation.

2018-09-20 12:27:54 UTC  

@Poppy Rider if you claim to be a piblic square you are a public square, if you want to create a platform for christians then your platform is not really public

2018-09-20 12:29:20 UTC  

So if you create legislation following those guidelines, all any of the companies has to do is stop calling themselves a public square, which would make it pointless.

2018-09-20 12:30:13 UTC  

Im fine with that then they can reap the benefits of not being a public square like not recieving tax dollars

2018-09-20 12:30:56 UTC  

Unless im misinformed on this

2018-09-20 12:31:45 UTC  

If they are receiving tax dollars the I would argue that stop regardless.

2018-09-20 12:32:43 UTC  

@Grenade123 Why do you think repealing 230 is a good idea?

2018-09-20 12:33:19 UTC  

It means they need to stop moderating their platform or be treated as a publisher and therefore liable for what is said.

2018-09-20 12:33:42 UTC  

Basically it makes Twitter liable for slander rather than the person saying it.

2018-09-20 12:33:50 UTC  

Etc

2018-09-20 12:34:10 UTC  

230 protects them from being liable.

2018-09-20 12:34:25 UTC  

If that happens everyone would get banned @Grenade123

2018-09-20 12:34:37 UTC  

And Twitter would be dead

2018-09-20 12:34:43 UTC  

If you take it away it means the sites are responceable for what is said.

2018-09-20 12:35:15 UTC  

No, they are only responsible IF they moderate

2018-09-20 12:35:43 UTC  

Ok that makes sense ^

2018-09-20 12:35:56 UTC  

So if they take one thing down they are no longer protected by the 230?

2018-09-20 12:36:08 UTC  

Basically, if they moderate, they are a publisher, if not they are like a library

2018-09-20 12:36:26 UTC  

Im fine with this then ^

2018-09-20 12:36:45 UTC  

So how would taking the protection away be helpful?

2018-09-20 12:36:47 UTC  

However, banning might still be protected, not sure exactly.

2018-09-20 12:36:48 UTC  

But what about moderating illegal content

2018-09-20 12:37:03 UTC  

And would users be able to block

2018-09-20 12:37:13 UTC  

That would be the governments job to have it taken down

2018-09-20 12:37:25 UTC  

Or they moderate, and are open to lawsuits