pleasurable experience part I would agree with

rest of it not so much

It's often disagreed with anyway but I might have gotten it wrong

There is a degree of fun learning the game but that explaination doesn't seem to involve any competition against other players.

Other people make the problem harder to solve

Tic Tac Toe is a solved problem regardless of PvP

Depends on whether the game is good or not. If there is one simplistic tactic that is above all else and takes little thought then yeah I'll agree with it otherwise I disagree

well I think game would have to be defined so general that it becomes useless and redundant as any kind of descriptor.

It's also assuming that all gamers are the same and enjoy playing games for the same reason. I could see that idea being very true for a Johnny player, and some Spikes, but not many Timmys

Raph Koster ironically tends to make games a lot of people didn't like because they felt like jobs. Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies, etc

are we talking about games or fun?

or fun in games?

Spike/Johnny/Timmy theory of game design might hold up better in the real world.

But what of the Pools?

well fun is a pleasurable experience, but when a pleasurable experience becomes normalized it's no longer a pleasurable experience. So, a pleasurable experience has to be balanced with an unpleasurable experience.

Or different types of pleasurable experience, I suppose. But that's almost built to fail.

test

but if longevity isn't the goal...

anyone hear about the 8th grade boy getting arrested in colorado springs?

for being a boy?

almost

for being almost a boy?

just another #metoo casualty

no, i haven't.

Looking at it, I think I'm a somewhat calculated Johnny

no idea what you guys are talking about with the names.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-2002-03-08

Yeah, but I didn't see many good resources for that story Spoke

he put a black emoji as his snapchat avatar, and some girls then accused him of molesting them

or maybe it was just one girl

@spoke that confirmed? the only place i could find that was on milo's site and a fundly site

not entirely trustworthy if you ask me

https://conservativedailypost.com/eighth-grader-victim-of-dramatic-accusations/

Back when I actually thought Magic the Gathering was worth my time (see: Before Politics)

woah, somebody's actually using the talk room

mega excite

My favorite deck that I was ever able to build from scratch

I'm like 75% Johnny 25% Timmy I think. I'll almost always avoid the OP stuff, and want to win creatively, but also want a bit of spectacle

Was a Tarkir deck.

I think so far it's only the 3 sites that have info about it

An Abzan Utility +1/+1 counter deck.