Message from @Grenade123
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maybe it should be impossible to contact the organizers on the day of the event without tickets.
then third parties would be unable to create scares
@Grenade123 that won't work because the payment processors are dependent on the credit card monopolies, who have no qualms about forcing them into compliance.
@VibrantGoo damn that sucks , seems like no one wants to find common ground
and there's no such thing as "just make your own credit card company bro"
I don't know how credible the bomb scare was, seems like it was more of a liability issue
sorry, i meant like the whole thing
hence "if i had the money"
"the money" in this case been billions of dollars to bootstrap a credit card firm that wouldn't have name recognition to compete with existing firms.
@Rabbi Shekels Agree, seems like people are so used to their political bubble that when they leave, people think their ideas are crazy and don't know how to respond.
of course, the alternative is to find some of those smaller, backwater credit card companies, and offer investment in them to boost their services to help reach a wider market, in exchange for a large enough cut of equity to control the decisions
the biggest danger is banks, but you could start with creating a credit union of sorts and add on credit card services follow by payment processing.
Other than Visa, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover what other credit card companies are there?
Done case closed
as the dems would say
id say kavanaugh is off the hook since we should apply the same standard
@Atkins ones not in America. There are more that are mainly bank to bank, which is where starting a credit union takes effect
and those are networks, not just companies
its like who owns the backbone internet lines vs just an ISP
alternatively, in theory you could probably use a crypto or something to start your own, idk. need to learn what makes them a network and how you'd make one
of course defcon would have a document on this https://www.defcon.org/images/defcon-11/dc-11-presentations/dc-11-Imhoff/Credit-Card-Networks-101.pdf
nice find ^
i think the biggest problem as to why there is not much in terms of alternatives popping up is as much as not knowing how to make the thing as it is cost of entry
I need to go to DEF CON again now that I'm of age to drink in the U.S.
i need to go
Last time I went, I was 17, so I had to lie to the hotel to even be allowed to stay. Contract relies on direct liability.
Cool vinyl record badge thing though, with coded message on it.
don't bring any tech to def con if you don't want someone to hack it the brag about it
I brought a fresh Chromebook for that reason.
I'm glad I did, since I ended up installing crouton at the conference, so that I could use a USB serial lead which was part of the tamper-evident village challenge, which sadly none of us completed. Nobody else was comfortable plugging a completely random USB lead into their precious ThinkPads.
(though I did my part, figuring out that the baud rate was 42 on that serial adapter, and decoding the [vaguely enciphered] message.)
god, this doc is from 2003 and mentions dial-up modem
oh well, the tech might change, the basics dont
I still use phone-based modems, albeit in a point-to-point config. Though I can't exactly tell you why, it was really the best option for what I was doing four years ago when I set it up. (and the modem could mostly be encased in resin, which was a big plus)
who wants to do some background searches
@Timcast I'll do it for a shout out
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they are left leaning, they don't really have "controversial" members
Danah Boyd's blog. She's a real gem.
<http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/>
Her undergraduate thesis was titled ""3-D computer systems used cues that were inherently sexist.""
How does someone take this person serious to the point where they get a job at Microsoft?