whats the talk been? i haven't seen mgtow outside of their subs or the occasional r/mensrights threads

the mens rights threads are biased places, its more about men secluding themselves because they have enough rights but women have been given extra

if you looked at mgtow with an open mind you would understand it opr reject it to put women on a pedestal higher than their self worth which in turn gives u low self respect

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also i do not like how western women get to choose without mens consent to abort the baby in them made by both parties, not just women and how they cant STILL TAKE THE BABY AWAY even after they are concieved and force the dad to pay child support without evert seeing the baby as equally as the woman does

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or how in, say France, they aren't letting men get paternity tests (requires woman's permission iirc)

I don't read MGTOW because I don't read Reddit and that's the only MGTOW community I know about

on youtube mgtow is very prominent

Oh, I've watched a few MGTOW vids from Computing Forever and Raging Golden Eagle, I like them

so where are people talking about it more? is it just the mgtow communities growing? or people expressing mgtow "talking points" in other more general communities without getting btfo'd for it?

Well, you hit the nail on the head at the beginning. The laws are rigged against men and men are finally wising up to that.

the communities are growing more

and @Malt_Hitman hat's not even getting into the court sys.

Agreed. Activist judges and prejudiced judges are also a major problem.

I don't understand why judges are picked the way they are

Here in Washington state everyone gets a ballot with the judge's name on it

In some parts, it seems the enitre family court system is packed with people with chips on their shoulders just looking to punish men.

in some places the voters pick. others appointees, issues either way

and in general, you have people with agendas getting JDs so they can subvert the courts and rule of law

women naturally vote left because it gives them more power

They get that ballot in the mail, I mean. THey make no special effort to register to vote aside from having a driver's license or state ID.

hell, look at the JDs harvard and yale churn out. And that's the future leaders of the US right there

So 99.9999% of the people who are voting for the judges have no idea who any of these people they're voting for are.

You can't even vote along party lines

To be honest, women vote left because it makes them feel good

Pathological altruism

The fact that some of them genuinely feel oppressed

Also helps.

in my personal experience im a bodybuilder and was nice to a liberal women artist that focused on her career and she told me i was a creep just for wanting to protect her by being manly

The worst red pill is when you learn that Democrats aren't altruists

But I think its more, oh these poor people, the left will protect them

It means you're now alienated from all your female friends who vote left

And thats why they tend to vote left

@Deleted User Welcome to MGTOW.

yep

I just want MGTOW to go back to being content with themselves.

rn i can only find manlyness in joining the military by protecting something

Now the community is attracting incels pretending to be happy with themselves

Pretending is the first step to doing.

what does incel mean btw