Message from Dr.Wol in Subverse #general

2018-09-24 11:40:27 UTC  

Which one was that

2018-09-24 11:40:51 UTC  

That report claiming he's Alt-right and talking with people like warski

2018-09-24 11:40:57 UTC  

cuz they were at the same convention once or something

2018-09-24 11:41:06 UTC  


2018-09-24 11:41:31 UTC  

@Dr.Wol oh yeah
i think thats the core issue that you just touched upon, there is a large group of people in the west like that

2018-09-24 11:42:04 UTC  

"what do you mean? why would other people come here and do bad things?"

2018-09-24 11:42:18 UTC  

"they are only violent because they are oppressed"

2018-09-24 11:42:24 UTC  

or something

2018-09-24 11:42:41 UTC

this was already a mindset little over 35 years ago

2018-09-24 11:43:11 UTC  

"If we only avoid direct confrontation, they'll forget their evil ways and learn to love us"

2018-09-24 11:43:38 UTC  

and all who oppose it are called Warmongers (or Fascists in todays case)

2018-09-24 11:44:08 UTC  

hmm interesting

2018-09-24 11:45:29 UTC  

"A nation that prefers disgrace to danger, is prepared for a master, and deserves one"

Does that remind you guys of anything? Something about people being scared of being politically incorrect?
Having to eternally apologise without ever being truely forgiven?

2018-09-24 11:46:00 UTC  

i wonder what the root cause of the spreading of that idea is, like... people think the 70 years of "peace" in europe (after ww2) was a great thing, and i agree, peace is great, but it also made people a bit... docile or something

2018-09-24 11:46:03 UTC  

Giving in, because they're scared of being branded racist

2018-09-24 11:46:18 UTC  

Its success that causes this

2018-09-24 11:46:36 UTC  

People no longer understand how hard the struggle for life is in the west

2018-09-24 11:47:28 UTC  

I think it is a good many causes

2018-09-24 11:47:33 UTC  

You work behind a desk for 8 hours, have the choice of food you want 3x per day, If its too hot in the summer theres Air conditioning, if its too cold in the winter, theres heating.

2018-09-24 11:47:47 UTC  

for a while, there was no real racial tension, people were happy, people were prosperous

2018-09-24 11:48:01 UTC  

Fear of dying became an all time low

2018-09-24 11:48:46 UTC  

So people started thinking "well, I'M doing fine, but theres still OTHERS out there that need help, And rich people being so rich they don't need all that money, cuz I don't need it for MY life, so they're mean and don't wanna share!"

2018-09-24 11:49:46 UTC  

Achieving success is no longer a goal, because people can live a succesful life 90% of the time in the west

2018-09-24 11:51:39 UTC  

Its that for everything,

divorces are cuz people are no longer willing to sacrifice,
Cuz you can just find someone else.

Who cares if she doesn't wanna sleep with you, you can just find some tramp who will

2018-09-24 11:51:59 UTC  

Well that depends on how success is measured, one of the major problems we have in the West in regards to debt and happiness is that Success is defined as "own specific things" vs "Live comfortably while doing things you enjoy"

2018-09-24 11:52:04 UTC  

yeah, i think those are all connected indeed
ive been thinking about that, maybe thats why in some cultures they have/had "warrior" trials, where when a boy would approach "adulthood" or "manhood" they would do a series of trails to prove to the tribe that they where worthy of that.
for example, they would have to survive /endure for x amount of time in a completely dark and enclosed area, i guess to let them feel how it is to be completely isolated from a society, or to stresstest or something.
i think something like this is needed xD but a modern version

2018-09-24 11:52:29 UTC  

Exactly Aghost

2018-09-24 11:52:37 UTC  

And success is measured in blood, yours or your enemies!

2018-09-24 11:53:11 UTC  

sorry warhammer 40k quote :P

Success is its own specific thing, which is that you're running a stable life with what you have / have been given

2018-09-24 11:53:24 UTC  

hahah cool, i love warhammer

2018-09-24 11:54:30 UTC  

whats it called? like... mandatory army service for 1 year for adults? after they finish school?
there was a name for something like this, i used to hate the concept but i agree with it more and more the older i get

2018-09-24 11:55:04 UTC  

a person with Downs syndrome, who can like, work at like Walmart, collecting those carts outside on the parking lot, they have a home, they earn enough to live, and enjoy that they're able to work, and have friends etc

They will never be a Rockefeller, or Bill Gates, or Zuckerberg, but i'd still consider them succesful

2018-09-24 11:56:03 UTC  

yeah i agree

2018-09-24 11:57:03 UTC  

and Mandatory army service is bad 😛 cuz thats meant to have you as emergency soldiers in case of war

But something like that should be done yeah to teach children the price of success

2018-09-24 11:57:13 UTC  


2018-09-24 11:57:25 UTC  


2018-09-24 11:57:28 UTC  

Have broke, go and woke!

2018-09-24 11:58:10 UTC  

But its also that thing of, that idea that "everyones opinion is equally valid"

2018-09-24 11:58:28 UTC  

Words cannot justify how much I hate Ezra klein and Vox

2018-09-24 11:58:39 UTC  

@Dr.Wol yeah thats what i mean.
i think its good for discipline, just 1 year mandatory, after that they can leave (or stay, if they want :P)
my country is having trouble getting enough recruits for the army :(