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How much _"your data"_ are records of _you_ having visited or used resources on _my_ site?

not paying attention to that, doesn't make sense.

possession is 9/10...

I would say they're my records, in that case.

I think there are at least 3 situations: 1. no expectation of privacy, you shared it you figured it was in the public realm 2. An expectation of privacy, but no agreement to it, this you telling a secret to a buddy or something. 3. An expectation and agreement, think of medical records or something.

I mean, one serious improvement would be to extend some of the protections afforded to _postal mail_ to other forms of permanent correspondence.

manspreading?

i accidently posted that my bad

sexist confirmed.

Taking, searching, or tampering with people's postal mail is a felony.

it is ^

Maybe taking, searching, or tampering with people's email, facebook messages, snapchats, whatsapps, SMS texts, etc. should be equally so.

@xorgy if so then they need to be government run

(sans narrow, targeted warrant for such behaviour)

and that becomes a problem

why would they need to be government run?

the post office is gov run

are you trying to equate the punishments with the mail same as the digital media ?

I don't see how that means that postal mail theft would not be a felony if the post office were not run by the government.

stealing my UPS packages is probably ....a crime.

facebook and twitter etc can tamper/spy on you and get away with it

but don't you authorize that?

Yes, the offense is not _theft from the US Postal Service_, it is _theft of mail_.

you do authorize fb and twit to do it

I think that that's probably fine, if you explicitly authorize the search of your messages, you should be left to deal with the consequences of that.

problem there is 500000 pages of ToS.

k.

XD

That is not a problem

like in the Steam TOS

just don't agree to it, and don't use it.

exactly 5k pages of ToS

where it explicitly says youre selling your soul to steam

XD

on page 20034

XD

eks dee

fooled them though, already sold mine.

There are reasonable limitations to the enforceability of contracts like that, but explicitly permitting them to search, analyze, view etc. your messages is a straightforward thing.

You either agree to that or you do not.