Message from @Poppy Rider

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2018-09-29 20:56:25 UTC  

The common definition

2018-09-29 20:56:33 UTC  

is that you advocate for the rights of men

2018-09-29 20:57:12 UTC  

I don't think the founding fathers were MRAs.

2018-09-29 20:57:12 UTC  

and if you dont want any human to be tortured, you are

2018-09-29 20:57:48 UTC  

I don't even have a bad opinion of MRAs, I just don't think that your broad definition is the common one, or a useful one.

2018-09-29 20:59:27 UTC  

I think it is the common definition, wether or not it is useful depednds on how you look at it.

2018-09-29 20:59:53 UTC  

MRA has the word activist in it right there. Believing in equal rights for men does not make you an activist

2018-09-29 21:00:36 UTC  

@Bones If you do believe in equal rights or any at all you are typicly advocating for those.

2018-09-29 21:00:48 UTC  

eh, tbf the acronym means Men's rights advocate

2018-09-29 21:01:00 UTC  

@Redneo these folk need to watch some more of the Doc.

2018-09-29 21:01:10 UTC  

advocate and activist are similar, but I think the latter has a lot more of an active connotation to it

2018-09-29 21:01:13 UTC  
2018-09-29 21:01:58 UTC  

@yvaN_ehT_nioJ advocacy is one form of activism.Adocacy is definatly activis, activism is not neccessarily advocacy

2018-09-29 21:02:02 UTC  

If we go by Urban Dictionary's definition(which we all know from the last week is the arbiter of truth) all the definitions say activist and not advocate.

2018-09-29 21:02:43 UTC  

thats dumb that's like saying cum and piss is similar

2018-09-29 21:03:02 UTC  

And anyway, it poses the same problems as the whole "are you a feminist" thing. You can agree with something in name and it's stated goals but still consider yourself not a member of the group. MRAs similarly do not have a monopoly on egalitarianism and perfect evidence of that is the "mens liberation" approach to mens rights.

2018-09-29 21:04:01 UTC  

@Redneo Literally the first 2 minutes are this argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBZxa0GVmcs

2018-09-29 21:06:58 UTC  

tim sed pussy in his latest vid DEMONETIZED

2018-09-29 21:07:27 UTC  

;D

2018-09-29 21:07:37 UTC  

I love that video. Worth a watch every 6 months, atleast.

2018-09-29 21:07:48 UTC  

But if all it takes to be an MRA is that you're against random torture, where do we draw the line? Like if I

2018-09-29 21:08:08 UTC  

Is this Kavanaugh thing an example of 'poisoning the well'?

2018-09-29 21:08:16 UTC  

Like if I'm against random torture but in favor of forced enslavement am I still an MRA?

2018-09-29 21:08:30 UTC  

Kavanaugh thing is an example of a dumpster fire

2018-09-29 21:08:49 UTC  

but it is the sort of dumpster fire that the left wants.

2018-09-29 21:08:53 UTC  

What if I'm against both of those and also against men's rights to fair treatment in child custody cases?

2018-09-29 21:08:54 UTC  

🔥

2018-09-29 21:08:58 UTC  

Can you guys stop wasting time with semantics you don't actually care about?

2018-09-29 21:08:59 UTC  

because their side will NEVER be held to that standard

2018-09-29 21:09:01 UTC  

@Schedrevka probably i guess. Now, that doesnt mean i have no line of criticising you buuut yeah

2018-09-29 21:09:07 UTC  

MRA is fairly broad

2018-09-29 21:09:10 UTC  

You're literally arguing just to argue

2018-09-29 21:09:27 UTC  

So literally all it takes to be an MRA is to be in favor of a single right for mankind no matter what that right is?

2018-09-29 21:09:31 UTC  

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2018-09-29 21:10:02 UTC  

Sched drags people into arguments all the time

2018-09-29 21:10:10 UTC  

What?

2018-09-29 21:10:18 UTC  

Just stop wasting our airwaves and take it into dms or something

2018-09-29 21:10:29 UTC  

Are you arguing that point, Schedrevka?

2018-09-29 21:10:34 UTC  

@Schedrevka well pretty much. Now, im not saying it is in itself useful - though in the face of the facts of how the term came to be, it is useful in demonstrating you stick to your guns

2018-09-29 21:10:40 UTC  

No I'm not.