The common definition

is that you advocate for the rights of men

I don't think the founding fathers were MRAs.

and if you dont want any human to be tortured, you are

I don't even have a bad opinion of MRAs, I just don't think that your broad definition is the common one, or a useful one.

I think it is the common definition, wether or not it is useful depednds on how you look at it.

MRA has the word activist in it right there. Believing in equal rights for men does not make you an activist

@Bones If you do believe in equal rights or any at all you are typicly advocating for those.

eh, tbf the acronym means Men's rights advocate

@Redneo these folk need to watch some more of the Doc.

advocate and activist are similar, but I think the latter has a lot more of an active connotation to it

@Poppy Rider agreed

@yvaN_ehT_nioJ advocacy is one form of activism.Adocacy is definatly activis, activism is not neccessarily advocacy

If we go by Urban Dictionary's definition(which we all know from the last week is the arbiter of truth) all the definitions say activist and not advocate.

thats dumb that's like saying cum and piss is similar

And anyway, it poses the same problems as the whole "are you a feminist" thing. You can agree with something in name and it's stated goals but still consider yourself not a member of the group. MRAs similarly do not have a monopoly on egalitarianism and perfect evidence of that is the "mens liberation" approach to mens rights.

@Redneo Literally the first 2 minutes are this argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBZxa0GVmcs

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@Poppy Rider yeah id respond with https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=R-aKyci8PMQ

;D

I love that video. Worth a watch every 6 months, atleast.

But if all it takes to be an MRA is that you're against random torture, where do we draw the line? Like if I

Is this Kavanaugh thing an example of 'poisoning the well'?

Like if I'm against random torture but in favor of forced enslavement am I still an MRA?

Kavanaugh thing is an example of a dumpster fire

but it is the sort of dumpster fire that the left wants.

What if I'm against both of those and also against men's rights to fair treatment in child custody cases?

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Can you guys stop wasting time with semantics you don't actually care about?

because their side will NEVER be held to that standard

@Schedrevka probably i guess. Now, that doesnt mean i have no line of criticising you buuut yeah

MRA is fairly broad

You're literally arguing just to argue

So literally all it takes to be an MRA is to be in favor of a single right for mankind no matter what that right is?

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Sched drags people into arguments all the time

What?

Just stop wasting our airwaves and take it into dms or something

Are you arguing that point, Schedrevka?

@Schedrevka well pretty much. Now, im not saying it is in itself useful - though in the face of the facts of how the term came to be, it is useful in demonstrating you stick to your guns

No I'm not.