Message from @Mana

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2018-10-01 22:10:38 UTC  

@Beef Taquitos He classifies himself as such

2018-10-01 22:10:48 UTC  

He said good social justice, you dink.

2018-10-01 22:10:56 UTC  

His openning statement on the munk debate

2018-10-01 22:11:00 UTC  

there is no such thing as good social justice

2018-10-01 22:11:06 UTC  

that's like dry water or cold fire

2018-10-01 22:11:07 UTC  

😐

2018-10-01 22:11:08 UTC  

Then you are dishonest.

2018-10-01 22:11:10 UTC  

Don't be obtuse.

2018-10-01 22:11:31 UTC  

it's like *ethical child porn*(you guys might not get the Destiny reference there)

2018-10-01 22:11:41 UTC  

Don't be obtuse.

2018-10-01 22:11:49 UTC  

says the person repeating themselves.

2018-10-01 22:12:01 UTC  

I wouldn't have to.

2018-10-01 22:12:05 UTC  

But you continued.

2018-10-01 22:12:15 UTC  

Social justice is a cancer. The only good social justice is no social justice.

2018-10-01 22:12:32 UTC  

Anything that purports to be "justice" besides actual justice is garbage

2018-10-01 22:12:45 UTC  

Yo folks if Social Justice is a religion then Tim is agnostic? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-10-01 22:12:47 UTC  

~~: Prove me wrong.~~

2018-10-01 22:13:22 UTC  

sorry, that's not the meme

2018-10-01 22:13:25 UTC  

: Change my mind.

2018-10-01 22:14:25 UTC  

Equality of opportunity existed before "social justice". Equality of outcome is what social justice was created for.

2018-10-01 22:14:49 UTC  

No that's communism

2018-10-01 22:14:50 UTC  

He and you are wrong if you think it's about equality of opportunity.

2018-10-01 22:14:55 UTC  

Vague definitions is a problem. I've noticed that SJW people don't think equality of opportunity and outcome are different. If I remember correctly Thomas Smith said he was for equality of opportunity, but when pressed on it he said we measure equality of opportunity by the outcomes. Sorry, I might be side tracking the discussion you guys were having.

2018-10-01 22:14:55 UTC  

Same thing.

2018-10-01 22:15:47 UTC  

Well people having terrible understanding of *language and therefore terrible conclusions is pretty typical, which again is why I think he's arrived at a bad definition of social justice.

2018-10-01 22:16:28 UTC  

He's pretty reasonable so I don't think he's got bad logical processes

2018-10-01 22:17:56 UTC  

I compare it to feminism here because every time you try to nail down feminism it boils down to "equality" which is a wholly inappropriate definition both for the concept and how they implement it. Same with the way social justice is being defined here and how he seems to deal with it.

2018-10-01 22:20:17 UTC  

Does Tim clarify what Kanye meant about the 13th amendment thing?

2018-10-01 22:20:38 UTC  

I don't remember him mentioning that

2018-10-01 22:21:00 UTC  

just remember him agreeing with him about a lot and not knowing wtf he was saying a lot, which tends to be how kanye works

2018-10-01 22:21:49 UTC  

I haven't watched the latest video yet, so I can't comment on it yet. It would not surprise me though if Tim is still trying to hold on to a word the SJWs are corrupting.

2018-10-01 22:21:58 UTC  

I didn't watch the clip and I didn't know he mentioned that when he was speaking so I'd say unless I was heavily distracted, no tim didn't mention it

2018-10-01 22:22:24 UTC  

The SJWs are literally the zealots of the concept, they're not corrupting it, they're the inevitable outcome of it

2018-10-01 22:22:49 UTC  

equality was a thing before social justice, it will be a thing long after social justice

2018-10-01 22:22:49 UTC  

Well this will be a long read

2018-10-01 22:23:50 UTC  

most of the time social justice is a way of virtue signalling your worth to others these days, so perhaps it is being corrupted by competition, if only in the extremes it's being taken to

2018-10-01 22:25:22 UTC  

```"the visible hand,"```
Oh jesus it's the nega-libertarians

2018-10-01 22:25:35 UTC  

or was it ancoms I forget

2018-10-01 22:27:22 UTC  

@oprahsminge Does he actually get into what it meant in 2009? cuz I'm only seeing comparisons and definitions of what it meant hundreds of years ago which is wholly irrelevant to us today, as anyone who called themselves a "democrat" a hundred years ago could tell you when looking at current democrats.