Message from @Beemann

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2018-10-06 02:09:24 UTC  

ultimately it does come down to the legislature

2018-10-06 02:09:35 UTC  

Ultimately it comes down to the demos

2018-10-06 02:09:38 UTC  

well, as a straight man, I am super happy that I now have the right of gay marriage.

2018-10-06 02:09:41 UTC  

who are shirking their jobs

2018-10-06 02:09:42 UTC  

And what the American people will put up with

2018-10-06 02:09:45 UTC  

Congress doesn't do it's job. What's new?

2018-10-06 02:09:55 UTC  

Government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all, but it's not the responsibility of SCOTUS to decide that.

2018-10-06 02:10:01 UTC  

But they did

2018-10-06 02:10:07 UTC  

neither should religion

2018-10-06 02:10:28 UTC  

It's almost like SCotUS isn't necessarily doing its job properly

2018-10-06 02:10:29 UTC  

No, they decided that rights given to one group of Americans must be given to all groups of Americans.

2018-10-06 02:10:33 UTC  

Equal protection.

2018-10-06 02:10:42 UTC  

Where is marriage listed as a right?

2018-10-06 02:10:51 UTC  

It's a left

2018-10-06 02:10:54 UTC  

Wait, goberment shouldn't tell me who i spend time with? WTH?

2018-10-06 02:11:04 UTC  

insanity!

2018-10-06 02:11:04 UTC  

In whatever law passed by legislature that governs marriage. The law that, IMO shouldn't exist.

2018-10-06 02:11:51 UTC  

btw, what is marriage?

2018-10-06 02:12:04 UTC  

The overwhelming majority of responsibility for shitty laws falls on those who wrote them, not those who interpreted conflicts after the fact.

2018-10-06 02:12:15 UTC  

Also one of the times NSA shit was struck down was because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were targeted

2018-10-06 02:12:22 UTC  

Sorry anti NSA shit

2018-10-06 02:12:29 UTC  

Marriage is two things: a contract and a social relation

2018-10-06 02:12:45 UTC  

So basically because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were being surveilled, rampant surveillance could continue

2018-10-06 02:13:08 UTC  

And they couldn't prove that because the documents were classified

2018-10-06 02:13:10 UTC  

that it?

2018-10-06 02:13:53 UTC  

So because the government made private data classified as part of a vast information trolling network, it wasn't possible to challenge the government on a 4th amendment violation

2018-10-06 02:14:07 UTC  

So again, it doesn't really boil down to scotus, it boils down to the public

2018-10-06 02:14:23 UTC  

And whether they are willing to do their duty to uphold the constitution

2018-10-06 02:14:36 UTC  

Would we be better off if SCOTUS was openly partisan and activist? Would you rather have laws written by 9 unelected judges who serve for live?

2018-10-06 02:14:36 UTC  

revolution?

2018-10-06 02:14:58 UTC  

>would it be better if it was even further from what it should be?
Wew

2018-10-06 02:15:00 UTC  

partisan judges are a no no

2018-10-06 02:15:09 UTC  

Yeah, exactly.

2018-10-06 02:15:19 UTC  

>it could be worse
Isn't an argument

2018-10-06 02:15:38 UTC  

Well, it actually is worse, all over the world.

2018-10-06 02:15:47 UTC  

Anything you could think of could potentially be worse

2018-10-06 02:15:49 UTC  

>It could be the UK
is terrifying

2018-10-06 02:16:00 UTC  

If you want SCOTUS to strike down laws that do not violate the constitution or precedent, you're asking for them to be activists.

2018-10-06 02:16:01 UTC  

I thought justices were partisan as a matter of course.

2018-10-06 02:16:10 UTC  

They do violate the constitution

2018-10-06 02:16:16 UTC  

After all, you've got D-appointed judges, and R-appointed judges.