Message from @Nine

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2018-10-06 02:07:22 UTC  

I thought there were places where the USA PATRIOT Act did step on the Constitution.

2018-10-06 02:07:34 UTC  

Apparently not, as the people who decide what violates the 4th haven't struck it down.

2018-10-06 02:07:44 UTC  

4th amendment

2018-10-06 02:07:51 UTC  

By that logic nothing really violates any amendment

2018-10-06 02:08:00 UTC  

Until we get armed fucks in the streets

2018-10-06 02:08:07 UTC  

its akin to search and seizure without a warrant

2018-10-06 02:08:18 UTC  

I'm not arguing that it's a good law. It's not. The Patriot Act is shit and I want i repealed. That's not the responsibility of the SCOTUS though.

2018-10-06 02:08:24 UTC  

Like 2a has been violated to the point of being utterly neutered re: its original purpose

2018-10-06 02:08:33 UTC  

Armed fucks? wouldn't that get in the way?

2018-10-06 02:08:50 UTC  

Stop trying to shove responsibility for repealing shitty laws onto SCOTUS when it's the responsibility of the legislature.

2018-10-06 02:08:52 UTC  

not technically no but his position doesnt make repealing it easy

2018-10-06 02:08:54 UTC  

Scotus ignores its role all the time

2018-10-06 02:09:13 UTC  

Remember how you guys got gay marriage? That wasn't the role of scotus to do that

2018-10-06 02:09:22 UTC  

But they did it anyway

2018-10-06 02:09:23 UTC  

The reason the SCOTUS isn't boring like it should be is because legislators are abdicating responsibility.

2018-10-06 02:09:24 UTC  

ultimately it does come down to the legislature

2018-10-06 02:09:35 UTC  

Ultimately it comes down to the demos

2018-10-06 02:09:38 UTC  

well, as a straight man, I am super happy that I now have the right of gay marriage.

2018-10-06 02:09:41 UTC  

who are shirking their jobs

2018-10-06 02:09:42 UTC  

And what the American people will put up with

2018-10-06 02:09:45 UTC  

Congress doesn't do it's job. What's new?

2018-10-06 02:09:55 UTC  

Government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all, but it's not the responsibility of SCOTUS to decide that.

2018-10-06 02:10:01 UTC  

But they did

2018-10-06 02:10:07 UTC  

neither should religion

2018-10-06 02:10:28 UTC  

It's almost like SCotUS isn't necessarily doing its job properly

2018-10-06 02:10:29 UTC  

No, they decided that rights given to one group of Americans must be given to all groups of Americans.

2018-10-06 02:10:33 UTC  

Equal protection.

2018-10-06 02:10:42 UTC  

Where is marriage listed as a right?

2018-10-06 02:10:51 UTC  

It's a left

2018-10-06 02:10:54 UTC  

Wait, goberment shouldn't tell me who i spend time with? WTH?

2018-10-06 02:11:04 UTC  

insanity!

2018-10-06 02:11:04 UTC  

In whatever law passed by legislature that governs marriage. The law that, IMO shouldn't exist.

2018-10-06 02:11:51 UTC  

btw, what is marriage?

2018-10-06 02:12:04 UTC  

The overwhelming majority of responsibility for shitty laws falls on those who wrote them, not those who interpreted conflicts after the fact.

2018-10-06 02:12:15 UTC  

Also one of the times NSA shit was struck down was because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were targeted

2018-10-06 02:12:22 UTC  

Sorry anti NSA shit

2018-10-06 02:12:29 UTC  

Marriage is two things: a contract and a social relation

2018-10-06 02:12:45 UTC  

So basically because the claimants couldn't prove they specifically were being surveilled, rampant surveillance could continue

2018-10-06 02:13:08 UTC  

And they couldn't prove that because the documents were classified

2018-10-06 02:13:10 UTC  

that it?

2018-10-06 02:13:53 UTC  

So because the government made private data classified as part of a vast information trolling network, it wasn't possible to challenge the government on a 4th amendment violation