Message from @xorgy

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2018-10-07 02:56:40 UTC  

The Innocence Project takes all cases, based on merit. Yet, more than half of their exonerations are for rape.

2018-10-07 02:56:57 UTC  

To me that indicates that rape cases are staggeringly overrepresented in exonerations.

2018-10-07 02:57:00 UTC  

my point is that the courts are still as faithful to legislation as they were 20, 40 years ago

2018-10-07 02:57:13 UTC  

even if the rights of the accused have been degraded legislatively

2018-10-07 02:57:23 UTC  

I feel like I am just being given bullshit for a problem that has taken on epidemic proportions.

2018-10-07 02:57:46 UTC  

You are reading what I'm saying and plastering a generic disagreement over an actual point I'm making.

2018-10-07 02:57:48 UTC  

No, there is not just the law, but also the implementation of it.

2018-10-07 02:58:10 UTC  

most of the problems which have arisen recently in regard to this come from legislation

2018-10-07 02:58:14 UTC  

Starr, Sonja B. "Estimating gender disparities in federal criminal cases." American Law and Economics Review 17.1 (2014): 127-159.

2018-10-07 02:58:26 UTC  

the propensity of courts and juries to misjudge rape cases is nothing new

2018-10-07 02:58:26 UTC  

Starr, Sonja B., and M. Marit Rehavi. "Mandatory sentencing and racial disparity: Assessing the role of prosecutors and the effects of Booker." Yale LJ 123 (2013): 2.

2018-10-07 02:58:36 UTC  

Tillyer, Rob, Richard D. Hartley, and Jeffrey T. Ward. "Differential treatment of female defendants: Does criminal history moderate the effect of gender on sentence length in federal narcotics cases?." Criminal justice and behavior 42.7 (2015): 703-721.

2018-10-07 02:58:41 UTC  

the legislation harming the defense's ability to present a case _is_ new, as you were saying.

2018-10-07 02:58:45 UTC  

Lim, Claire SH, Bernardo S. Silveira, and James M. Snyder. "Do judges’ characteristics matter? ethnicity, gender, and partisanship in texas state trial courts." American Law and Economics Review 18.2 (2016): 302-357.

2018-10-07 02:59:07 UTC  

Are you going to give me more fog or do you actually want to honestly debate me?

2018-10-07 02:59:19 UTC  

I don't want to debate you, because I agree with you

2018-10-07 02:59:29 UTC  

Yay me.

2018-10-07 02:59:31 UTC  

except on the small matter of _the courts_ getting worse.

2018-10-07 02:59:48 UTC  

I don't think that _the courts are getting worse_.

2018-10-07 02:59:56 UTC  

Okay, I'm not sure if that's some kind of nitpicking, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt there.

2018-10-07 03:00:22 UTC  

I think that the courts have been as bad at the things mentioned in that body of research for the last 40-60 years as they are today.

2018-10-07 03:00:36 UTC  

Fine. I'm just a bird.

2018-10-07 03:00:54 UTC  

Is there any other crime as emotionally charged as rape?

2018-10-07 03:01:01 UTC  

No, not really.

2018-10-07 03:01:11 UTC  

And in fact, the meta-emotional nature of it is astounding.

2018-10-07 03:01:16 UTC  

Yes, ordering pineapple on pizza.

2018-10-07 03:01:23 UTC  

The fact that it is emotionally charged leads people to tell people about how emotionally charged it is

2018-10-07 03:01:31 UTC  

Except for the fact that men falsely accused of rape are, to be blunt, rarely go to trial, let alone get convicted

2018-10-07 03:01:45 UTC  

and the emotionality becomes amplified by people hearing others be emotional about it.

2018-10-07 03:01:54 UTC  

Did you get that from a fortune cookie or a feminist infographic? @Ace K

2018-10-07 03:02:15 UTC  

It's called reality dude, but thanks for being a whiner about it.

2018-10-07 03:02:25 UTC  

...

2018-10-07 03:02:27 UTC  

Sorry for being so whiny.

2018-10-07 03:02:29 UTC  

guys

2018-10-07 03:02:30 UTC  

It's in my nature.

2018-10-07 03:02:32 UTC  

calm the fuck down, both of you

2018-10-07 03:02:36 UTC  

this is no way to converse about anything.

2018-10-07 03:02:47 UTC  

If I calmed down any further, you might no longer detect a pulse.

2018-10-07 03:03:07 UTC  

@Ace K If you want to come in here and just stir the pot, you'll be the least missed among us.

2018-10-07 03:03:17 UTC  

WOW WO WOW

2018-10-07 03:03:20 UTC  

DUDE CALM DOWN!