Now, you have the added advantage in the U.S. legal system that the constitution speaks to this.

The changes in courts that have been pushed through in recent laws are some of the most dramatic erosions of due process we have seen in a century.

The supreme court has also tremendously expanded the protection of the accused

And you are acting like it's no big deal?

as it regards access to a defense attorney, the rules of evidence

We are going to see hundreds of thousands of men falsely convicted, because activist lawyers are busy plugging all holes through which men have been able to defend themselves.

This is one of the most horrendous developments in decades.

I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.

Then make that argument loud and clear to people

people who don't already agree.

Dude, what are you saying?

I am making that argument right here, right now.

And all I am getting is fog.

I agree that they are perverting it

and that thousands of people have already been victimized

I'm just saying that it ain't the courts doing it.

It's almost everyone else's fault but the courts.

No offense, but I feel like you are not arguing in earnest.

I feel like I am getting a heap of BS.

You've been talking this whole time about _legislation_

except in the case of Zuker

I've been giving you a whole list of concrete examples, and all I feel I am getting is hyperbole.

in the U.S, the Congress makes legislation

the innocence project is 7 years old

If you don't want to honestly debate me, dont.

the post*

@Timcast IIRC the up to date data are similar

I found that 73% of the cases on their site involved rape in some way

Yes, the article is a little older.

All indicators are that it has become worse since, not better.

I'm not arguing against that

Rape are about 1/20th of all violent crimes, according to the DoJ.

I'm saying that these issues do not come from _the courts_, which is why I bothered to dissent from what you were saying in the first place.

The Innocence Project takes all cases, based on merit. Yet, more than half of their exonerations are for rape.

To me that indicates that rape cases are staggeringly overrepresented in exonerations.

my point is that the courts are still as faithful to legislation as they were 20, 40 years ago

even if the rights of the accused have been degraded legislatively

I feel like I am just being given bullshit for a problem that has taken on epidemic proportions.

You are reading what I'm saying and plastering a generic disagreement over an actual point I'm making.

No, there is not just the law, but also the implementation of it.

most of the problems which have arisen recently in regard to this come from legislation