Message from @tritrium
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I know nothing of indonesian politics but didnt u guys have some serious authoritarian issues not so long ago? or am i confusing that with some of the other countries there
yeah, we had an american-backed authoritarian regime from 1966 to 1998
where people had been killed and jailed for diverging from the reigning party
and we've had some transition era to dismantle much of the damages
although very slowly
see thats the thing with these authoritarian regimes
they never last
Its always a question about how much damage is going to be done before it collapses
Well i always think of those things and then it puts thing in perspective from the stupid things we need to deal with here
I remember that we were sent to another town to avoid troubles since there were plenty of anti-chinese tensions
like having a 30 year+ long debate about wether or not we gonna build a bridge.
ye man i cant really imagine how that is
i only heard stuff like that from my grandparents
there were riots, rapes and lootings in the capital as the regime changed.
it was a rather tense situation
especially when there were insurrections and racial civil wars that erupted
oh yeah i know about that
like the massacre of sampit, where maduranese were persecuted by borneo-born dayaks; Ambon civil war, where christians and muslims fought a bloody civil war; Rise of GAM (aceh freedom movement); rise of OPM (free papua organisation); etc.
and the advent of 9/11 also resulted in the rise of wahhabists and religious extremists who were heavily suppressed during the authoritarian regime
nice
and everyone was hysterical about it when it popped up
eh.... we've always had an islamic party in Indonesia. heck, even before it was called Indonesia
We dont
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when it was still called Dutch East Indies
the "conservative" islamists party had mostly been moderate here
Unlike our friend at the party "islam"
heck, they literally just banned a wahhabist movement.
yeah this islam party we got here is not wahabist
I always compare it to what the christian party wouldve said 2-300 years ago
heck, islam in Indonesia is a rather unique blend of islam teachings and hindu-buddhist influences
since the islamic saints in Indonesia was told to have used shadow puppet theatre and epic drawings to spread their religion
heck, most muslim here never thought of visiting buddhist or hindu temples of old as something sacrilegious
they just think of it as it's part of the culture
over here theyre becoming more conservative then certain countries in the middle east are, at least when it comes to day to day life.
Which i find strange
or maybe its not that strange given what has been done in the past 30 years
tbh, I was extremely worried when tim posted the anti-islam persecution by the CCP since wow.... if that made a national news here... I can only feel dread on the consequences
while his comments on that vid was filled with people exclaiming that they agree with the news.
im not following