and isn't in any way comparable

defense against outside actors who have already started attacking our "friends" and are our "friends" are definitely losing is better than just making up fights to take on and figure out how to justify it later

When was the last time Norway had a group of people chanting "Death to Norway" and sending terrorists into their country to kill thousands of people?

Jon voight gives a great point on why us should intervene in world affairs

And adresses whats wrong with america

@Baal he's an actor

I don't really care what he says

Try listening to the argument rather than dismissing it out of hand.

They aren't chanting Death to Norway because Norway didn't work hard to keep a Dictatorial Shah in Power in Iran while handing over oil for cheap to Norway

why?

I need to listen to every argument?

But Norway did.

that's too woke even for me

So you have a reason for Iran, who we haven't gone to war with.

What about the powers we actually have gone to war with?

Jon adreeses vietnam

@AdorableStormtrooper that's a pretty significant misunderstanding of how the oil trade works

And how hippies made the us leave vietnam by that the bad guys killed 2.5 million ppl

it was oil Imperialism along with cultural Imperialism that iranians didn't like, the Shah was a westernised Modernist and they wanted a Muslim

Wasn't hippies.

It was all Congress voting to break our deal with S. Vietnam.

Threw away the whole victory.

It was the protests

Acording to the official Vietnamese NVA archives, it was the KBG that won the Veitnam War.

The hippies the left the dems

@AdorableStormtrooper pretty sure the constant brutality and corruption was a bigger motivator

I actually agree with Vietnam War but most wars US has fought are unnecessary since ww2

most people don't give a shit about international politics in their daily lives

people care about their own cultural security though

and again, you clearly don't understand the oil trade

and why the US benefits from it or how

Okay I think I have a solution to this political divide

>agree with vietnam war
>but Korea was unnecessary
>so was Desert Storm
>Afghanistan
>Iraq

what political divide?

Desert Storm was absolutely necessary

>all when the only reason we went to Vietnam was to help our allies

Fucking what?

The US Army won on the ground and in the air, but the KGB conducted operations at the American Homefront to ensure the US lost support for the war.

Afg and IRQ were neo con proof of concept wars

which failed

Korea was before Vietnam wasn't it? I'm ok with Korea as well