the only person worse than an infidel? a heretic.

No Aid, No War 👍

Sadly Isolationism doesn't work

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That's why I said we can't do it.

there's a difference between being isolationist and simply being more selective about what we do

generally, I don't see a downside to avoiding the middle eas

*east

for the US specifically

>more selective
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yeah

Can someone repost this link so it can be played? Is relevant to the convo

https://youtu.be/DqIugvlle74

Im not going to pretend that I know what that would mean specifically

I'm just throwing thoughts out

what's wrong with being a country like say Norway, don't war with other countries?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqIugvlle74&feature=youtu.be

LOL

Thank you rider

Because its norway

and isn't in any way comparable

defense against outside actors who have already started attacking our "friends" and are our "friends" are definitely losing is better than just making up fights to take on and figure out how to justify it later

When was the last time Norway had a group of people chanting "Death to Norway" and sending terrorists into their country to kill thousands of people?

Jon voight gives a great point on why us should intervene in world affairs

And adresses whats wrong with america

@Baal he's an actor

I don't really care what he says

Try listening to the argument rather than dismissing it out of hand.

They aren't chanting Death to Norway because Norway didn't work hard to keep a Dictatorial Shah in Power in Iran while handing over oil for cheap to Norway

why?

I need to listen to every argument?

But Norway did.

that's too woke even for me

So you have a reason for Iran, who we haven't gone to war with.

What about the powers we actually have gone to war with?

Jon adreeses vietnam

@AdorableStormtrooper that's a pretty significant misunderstanding of how the oil trade works

And how hippies made the us leave vietnam by that the bad guys killed 2.5 million ppl

it was oil Imperialism along with cultural Imperialism that iranians didn't like, the Shah was a westernised Modernist and they wanted a Muslim

Wasn't hippies.

It was all Congress voting to break our deal with S. Vietnam.