Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-10-15 10:59:20 UTC  

i can Identify as a Nazi, or as a SJW, it doesn't give me any more or less strength as a person

2018-10-15 10:59:36 UTC  

Nah, but identifying as the former will get you banned tho <:GWqlabsFeelsFunnyMan:398950861361119233>

2018-10-15 11:00:10 UTC  

What your ancestors did in the past has a huge influence in who you are at present, whether you like it or not..

2018-10-15 11:00:14 UTC  

you can forge indentity through your actions and principles, and if enough people do it you have a culture

2018-10-15 11:00:33 UTC  

This is why, if you control the Narrative of where we've come from, you can control where we're going.

2018-10-15 11:00:44 UTC  

we're all from Africa

2018-10-15 11:00:50 UTC  

it al depends where you start counting

2018-10-15 11:01:08 UTC  

Or i guess we're all from Europe if we go by that recent scientific thing 🤔

2018-10-15 11:01:31 UTC  

Colonialism and Slavery certainly has had a huge effect on the self image and identity Natives in England, France and of White Americans

2018-10-15 11:02:06 UTC  

If you don't choose your identity and direct historical narratives yourself, it will be done for you.

2018-10-15 11:02:30 UTC  

well i rejected mine, and here i stand

2018-10-15 11:02:46 UTC  

👍

2018-10-15 11:03:32 UTC  

My historical narratives are beign part of the Slav race, where the word for Slavery came from in the first place,
And one of the dutch who shipped slaves to America for profit

So if i'd follow my historical people i'd be a slave, or a slaver

2018-10-15 11:03:53 UTC  

I choose neither, and will carve my own path in life

2018-10-15 11:03:58 UTC  

Yes that is your identity now, you must own it <:LULW:330291809538277377>

2018-10-15 11:04:04 UTC  

But identity isn't important? Why think that?

2018-10-15 11:04:10 UTC  

I don't

2018-10-15 11:04:12 UTC  

you say it is

2018-10-15 11:04:24 UTC  

```My historical narratives are beign part of the Slav race, where the word for Slavery came from in the first place,
And one of the dutch who shipped slaves to America for profit

So if i'd follow my historical people i'd be a slave, or a slaver```

this i mean

2018-10-15 11:04:53 UTC  

why would this be important?

2018-10-15 11:05:04 UTC  

i'm saying theres absolutely NO importance to it

2018-10-15 11:05:09 UTC  

it hasn't shaped me as a person

2018-10-15 11:06:22 UTC  

what your ancestors did, what they believed, how they lived, you think has no effect on you?
mate every word we say, every thought we think in abstract can be traced back to our ancestors. we stand on their shoulders.

2018-10-15 11:06:54 UTC  

What my ancestors did and believed is of no importance to me, as i don't even know

Its what the societies in Europe did thats of importance as that laid the groundwork for modern europe

2018-10-15 11:06:59 UTC  

it's important to make peace with the past and have a coherent narrative just like it's important to make peace with your own Father.

2018-10-15 11:07:21 UTC  

It is not, whats important is having a sense of freedom, and principles on what is right and what is wrong

2018-10-15 11:07:28 UTC  

👌 <:NPC:500042527231967262>

2018-10-15 11:07:50 UTC  

```What my ancestors did and believed is of no importance to me, as i don't even know

Its what the societies in Europe did thats of importance as that laid the groundwork for modern europe```

Your ancestors built those societies. A society is the sum total of the people that are part of it, am i wrong?

2018-10-15 11:08:35 UTC  

by that logic, immigrants become part of the nativies, because they become part of society

2018-10-15 11:08:42 UTC  

so you tell me

2018-10-15 11:09:07 UTC  

I reject the past as a plan, because history is a set of lies agreed upon

2018-10-15 11:09:19 UTC  

I only see the past as a way we can prevent mistakes that we have recorded

2018-10-15 11:09:21 UTC  

you are moving away from the Nation State model so your societies are no longer built just by say Dutch people.

2018-10-15 11:09:36 UTC  

<:PusheenPopcorn:411773039068577813>

2018-10-15 11:10:18 UTC  

I'm for maintaining the Nation state model, cuz i dont want to end up like America,

Where you shoved taht aside and instead replaced "Nations" with "Race"

2018-10-15 11:10:20 UTC  

@Dr.Wol do you think if I come to Netherlands as a Tamil person, I'd be able to identify with your Great Heroes of the Past?
say if I'm a German Tamil, will I really be able to feel that German Guilt of World War 2?

2018-10-15 11:10:24 UTC  

What is a Dutch person?

2018-10-15 11:10:38 UTC  

^ this is what your future is

2018-10-15 11:10:43 UTC  

No, but i don't either, i dont identify with any hero of the dutch past

2018-10-15 11:11:01 UTC  

No, tell me how you define dutch

2018-10-15 11:11:04 UTC  

Do you think i should feel shame for my ancestors having enslaved countrless of negroes in Africa and selling them like a commodity?