Message from @Donny

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2018-10-15 10:44:45 UTC  

there should be.

2018-10-15 10:44:48 UTC  

and what @AdorableStormtrooper means is that you have a right to defend your culture/country from other influences, because its your right to say "I dont want to be influenced by outsiders if i dont want to"

2018-10-15 10:45:14 UTC  

on the soil your ancestors conquered and claimed, and passed down to you

2018-10-15 10:45:20 UTC  

A Nation is the sum today of it's people, you replace the people of France with the people of Algeria and Morocco and it will be France in name only.

2018-10-15 10:45:23 UTC  

I mean thats your right yes, but thats why we live in a democracy

2018-10-15 10:45:43 UTC  

If people are un happy with the current way things are going they can just vote

2018-10-15 10:46:18 UTC  

they are not given option to vote if they want to be replaced or not.

2018-10-15 10:46:24 UTC  

Oi nah but apparently it bad if someone who wasn't born on ur country's soil can vote aye

2018-10-15 10:46:58 UTC  

Even if they are a citizen of several years, working and paying tax in that country

2018-10-15 10:47:14 UTC  

Well its bad if someone comes to your country for the prosperity you and your fellows made

And then wants to turn your country into one thats like the one they left in the first place

2018-10-15 10:47:20 UTC  

and EU level you cant even vote for those unelected leaders who make big decisons for coutnreis and policys.

2018-10-15 10:47:32 UTC  

There are things you will never get to vote on in a Democracy, for god sake you really think everyone with an idea has an equal chance to compete, no bank in France would give Loans to Marine Le Pen's party and she had to borrow money from the Russians which was used against her in the campaign @rhite

2018-10-15 10:48:00 UTC  

well its the banks money, they get to decide who to loan it to

2018-10-15 10:48:09 UTC  

"we live in a Democracy", no you don't as long as German and English police can barge in through your door for posting a wrong comment on Twitter.

2018-10-15 10:48:38 UTC  

a Democracy needs the Right to Free Speech, if you can't even express certain ideas in public, how will you get to vote on them?

2018-10-15 10:48:39 UTC  

thats still a democracy, just not freedom (of speech)

2018-10-15 10:49:01 UTC  

Democracy just means the vote of the majority, it has nothing to do with your right to speech

2018-10-15 10:49:04 UTC  

Yeah that doesn't really disqualify from being a Democracyâ„¢

2018-10-15 10:49:19 UTC  

thats why you have "Peoples republics" in Asia, where theres only 1 party 😄 you can vote, but theres only 1 vote to make

2018-10-15 10:49:20 UTC  

```give me control over a nation's currency and i care not who makes its laws```

2018-10-15 10:49:27 UTC  

Although is not democratic in spirit admittedly

2018-10-15 10:50:00 UTC  

As long as the people decide who rules, it's a democracy

2018-10-15 10:50:14 UTC  

as long as people can VOTE its a democracy

2018-10-15 10:50:17 UTC  

It can be an authoritarian one

2018-10-15 10:50:19 UTC  

No one is barging through any doors for a wrong comment

2018-10-15 10:50:34 UTC  

look up "Count Dankula" rhite

2018-10-15 10:50:43 UTC  

@rhite The police dragged a woman ot of her door for telling someone to have a gay day

2018-10-15 10:50:59 UTC  

That is all literal

2018-10-15 10:51:22 UTC  

Dankula got arrested, charged and sentenced for teaching his dog to get excited to the phrase "Gas the Jews"

2018-10-15 10:51:32 UTC  

And raise it's paw

2018-10-15 10:51:35 UTC  

These aren't EU laws <:HyperThonk:408369857474854912>

2018-10-15 10:51:40 UTC  

and lift its paw up when it hears "Sieg heil"

2018-10-15 10:52:12 UTC  

```Even if they are a citizen of several years, working and paying tax in that country```

This is the major I think I have with Internationalist Ideology, it reduces Nationhood to a bunch of Tax Payers, it doesn't really matter who's paying taxes as long as they're paying their taxes.

2018-10-15 10:52:46 UTC  

thats cuz theres no metric for culture

2018-10-15 10:52:50 UTC  

Which aspects of Nationhoodâ„¢ are inherently good and worth preserving tho

2018-10-15 10:52:54 UTC  

If I get to call myself German, or Tamil German.. I will still have my identity intact as a Tamil, but your identity as a German will be diluted. You are no longer have an Ethnic Identity.
Your culture will be universalized as if it belongs to everybody while my culture will stay mine or else it's Cultural Appropriation.

2018-10-15 10:53:20 UTC  

Cultural appropriation is a good thing

2018-10-15 10:53:23 UTC  

change my mind!

2018-10-15 10:53:30 UTC  

Nah

2018-10-15 10:53:33 UTC  

You will be given a completely meaningless identity devoid of any inherent cultural signifiers, White.

2018-10-15 10:53:33 UTC  

Is fine