The return of the Messiah....battle between him and Satan ...good stuff

@booglooman92 {OH} just trying to understand.... do you call yourself a Christian? What do you believe personally?

I am a Christian but much like government- after thousands of years in different translations I very much believe the old and new testament were corrupted.

Learn Greek....read it in greek

And Hebrew

Then where do you get your ideology from? If not the Bible as you say is corrupted?

I think about thing in a Scientific understanding, it the only solid thing we can rely on and experiment on ourselves and to a certain extent what I feel spiritually in my heart . I don’t wanna to offend anyone as I know you guys don’t want to offended me and we are just openly discussing our thought but I think a lot of what’s in the Bible especially after the Old Testament has lots of added language that was never there, there lot of inconsistencies and thing’s that I do not believe a loving god would say or really do. I think to an extent we really are all connected and there is a grander existence for you and I thought I don’t know exactly what it is because I don’t think it just heaven- it would get boring to be god like and because to transmute whatever we want whenever we want and do whatever we want.

Read from start to finish...if it contradicts scripture it's false and was added.

I'm tempted to the Greek bible and learn

Learn Greek?

Ight say less

Ancient Greek, it would be untampered. Alot of the issues you will find in the Bible comes out of them adding numbers and chapters.

Pretty sure you can still get Bibles without numbers and chapters yea?

I’m confused at the adding language that wasn’t there. I do agree certain translations are lacking, but that can be due to the society’s vocabulary being different and not having the correct words in translation. I had a study Bible in the JKV that would go into better detail at the original wording in Hebrew and show what the translation is supposed to say

Yes but how many times has it been copied by man and like a game of telephone things get lost and some of the early stories where transferred you mouth before ending on any kind of paper, it’s the fallacy of man, also why are there 3 different religions that fundamentally worship the same God just with slightly different views but very similar customs. I think every religious book has some of the correct info I just can not believe it all 100% correct or edited.. especially after the Catholics took control. They have some of the oldest written script and possibly the spear that pierced Jesus‘s heart hidden 30ft underground. We will just never know until we die.

The spear never pierced his heart

Just his ribcage

But if your problem is they were transferred by voice for decades before being written....the old testament would be more subject to that problem than the new.

So with every archeological discovery pertaining to the Bible, it has only affirmed the accounts that were written down. And I believe that the writers were ordained by God to relay his message. Meaning that he would’ve given them the tools to be accurate

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I agree but I think the the Catholic Church edited the the heck out of the Bible, that the one reason why I think the old testament is way more accurate. It wasn’t fudge around with as much.

They did....that's why I read versions they don't like.

Honestly they didn’t need to. Being the only ones that could read it, they could and did say whatever they wanted

@O/K/ie Voluntaryist what do you consider the most accurate translation? I’ve always been partial to the KJV

KJV.....and of course the original translations are great

Original meaning Hebrew and greek

Yeah. But both of them are.... Greek to me

I have a Hebrew bible....and the stuff to learn it but holy crap that's hard to learn

I can imagine

Don't make me take a picture of the first page of Genesis

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It's chicken scratch

I’m sure they’d think the same about English

Damn the Tower of Babel 😆

Well...they would recognize we are based on greek

And latin

A lot closer to Latin with the alphabet though

Definitely.....they could learn it easily if they knew latin or greek