Ford and Kavanaugh were not even given a trial let alone the presumption of innocence

innocence i think you mean

one, as shitty as it is, democrats used the fact it was not a trial to have a show trial

Or I guess it’d be more accurate to flip that and yea innocence

its underhanded as fuck but its not the equivalent of what happens in the actual court system

as it stands, the only cases you TYPICALLY hear about are ones that are not being held in a court to begin with

between kavanaugh and university show trials, you have a mob justice system running in parallel

Show trials are fascistic/communist like tactics imo

yes they are

It’s like what’s fuckin next purges!?!

Show trails are fucking barbaric.

but the point is that @Dusty Morgan suggesting that within the actual justice system we start emulating the UK (in effect mind you) is absolutely horrendously stupid

no offense good sir

jub

or yes offense. Whichever

I never said emmulating UK.

I am said we need to be careful about how we proceed.

Dusty, I am trying to point out to you that what you are talking about ABSOLUTELY emulates the UK

Either we have mob justice through show trails or unfair justice system for the accuser

look at why tommy robinson was arrested. Read it up.

you have accurately described the system that got tommy arrested

I am trying to say middle ground between the extremes. You were jumping between the two extremes.

To padd your argument with extremes of both spectrums when I am saying there is a middle ground in justice system we need to find.

im criticizing you're actual suggestion. Not the concept of a middle ground

im trying to lay out what I see to be the realistic outcome of it

Basically I am saying we need protections for the accused and accuser.

k

Thus when the justice system goes either way... people can go on with their lives without it being destroyed in the proesses.

k

If the accused commites the crime, they can serve their time and then return to their life.

Not being punished for the rest of their lives.

so you're saying nothing and making platitudes

that's fine

Then the victim, if they accuse someone... they are not threaten by the mob and if they make false allegation through mistaken indentity, they will not have their lives destroyed either.

If the accuser does make false allegations with intention of hurting someone, they will face justice as well.

cool

OH SHIT THEY SAID MAN WE WANT SOME MORE HITS

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Man, this sound like some shit from 06

IT is complex.

what are you talking about @Gear