Yeah, like people would be more willing to work harder if they could eaisly rise up socially.

Yeah. You gotta let your workers know you give a shit..

Instead of working days and hours with no raise or promotion no matter their skill level.

It's like that scene in Office Space.

The only motivation is not to be yelled at.

Because he isn't seeing more money for working harder.

Yeeeeeeeah, im gonna need you to just work normally on Mondaaaaaay....

@Gear You say all of this stuff, but it can be contradicted easily. I think you've got this idea in your head but I don't really see any substantial reasoning behind it.

Like my dad works most days and heavy hours, has a degree from college yet gets no promotions or anything. The only one he was offered was twenty cents higher and would require his commute to be super fucking long.

How so? @xorgy

If workers trust that they can eaisly climb up the ladder they will work harder.

Look at the fall of the Soviet Unioun.

???

Jeez. The best way to make it these days is to find better opportunities every year for job offers

>not going into electrical so you can be your own boss and end it all at anytime if work gets too much for you

The best way, sure

Usually looking for third-party offers is a better way to justify a raise to your current employer.

Workers could work all they want and get nothing back, no better living condition or anything. Just higher work quotas.

I do cnc machining, ll I gotta do is put my shirt near that cutter and bye bye

but employers sometimes give raises for improved performance or to adjust for outside economic factors

>not becoming a plumber so you can make more money

I can't stand the crowd that says "Just quit" when you have a major complaint. Because that option only exists with an economy more robust than this one.

therefore it's not as though they "don't"

@acarson how is CNC btw?

not becoming plumber so you can chase a princess

I make knives.... I guess I can just commit sepukku

How much more robust does the economy have to be than the most robust it has ever been?

My shirt will pull me in, and the spinning will snap my spine and I will die

You're saying "just quit" to someone who was lucky to get this job in the first place. So you're basically saying "Just learn to fly! Geez"

They don't give those raises to workers, only them selves and other CEOs.

So you're saying, work like the Lobsters?

nobody here said "just quit", scrib

```How much more robust does the economy have to be than the most robust it has ever been?```
Dude, what?

The factories are still gone.

unironically was interested in how CNC work an dpay is tho

All jobs seem to require years of experience and/or a degree.

You can't just quit one job and easily find another.

Dude, if you learned to fly, you’d make a lot of money in the circus

That's what I mean by robust.

We've been over that. They dont

Cnc machining, like reglaur machining, is dangerous and can kill you, but the pay is living wage