Message from @aukkras

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2018-10-17 06:56:41 UTC  

As far as 'super rich people' go

2018-10-17 06:56:54 UTC  

wasn't the gold standard abandoned because of the great depression?

2018-10-17 06:57:01 UTC  

no

2018-10-17 06:57:13 UTC  

it was abandoned because Tricky Dick said so

2018-10-17 06:57:34 UTC  

Being overly concerned about the rich is like being overly concerned about people who are too successful at farming apples.

2018-10-17 06:57:42 UTC  

<:thonk:432992056214945818>

2018-10-17 06:58:15 UTC  

You can ask yourself why does someone need a silo full of apples, sure...

2018-10-17 06:58:28 UTC  

I just ask why I should care about someone else's silo full of apples.

2018-10-17 07:00:27 UTC  

well nobody needs a silo full of apples, but that doesn't change that he did the work to make that silo full of apples

2018-10-17 07:00:43 UTC  

Basically, this.

2018-10-17 07:02:08 UTC  

Damn. I could really go for some freeze dried apples now. Fuck those things are good.

2018-10-17 07:05:32 UTC  

afaic, if you're in a community you should be expected to contribute
you're using their land and trees, picking the apples shouldn't allow you to hoard them away from others

2018-10-17 07:07:45 UTC  

Who says it's their trees and their land?

2018-10-17 07:07:55 UTC  

Rich people are not a concern if:
- They don't hoard wealth and let it sit in their account
- They don't use the funds to play God
- They don't try to eliminate competition in dirty ways

2018-10-17 07:09:00 UTC  

Hoarding Wealth isn't a problem.Using their funds to play god, as you put it, is only a problem with a complacent population....

2018-10-17 07:09:01 UTC  

what does the second point refer to?

2018-10-17 07:09:17 UTC  

And Yes, I am opposed to corporate protectionism.

2018-10-17 07:09:56 UTC  

Hoarding is a problem. If the funds do not participate in economy they screw up the value of the currency

2018-10-17 07:10:05 UTC  

If company A has been selling widgets for 20 years

2018-10-17 07:10:26 UTC  

and Company B starts selling widgets cheaper, Company A should have to compete with Company B.

2018-10-17 07:10:54 UTC  

if only govs would plug all loopholes allowing heavy tax optimizations (like the google does) they wouldn't have to specifically tax rich 😉

2018-10-17 07:11:09 UTC  

Or they can buy 51% of their stocks, and then just shut the competition down

2018-10-17 07:11:19 UTC  

Also disgusting.

2018-10-17 07:11:42 UTC  

But, of course, that's only a problem if the stocks trade publicly.

2018-10-17 07:11:54 UTC  

If it's privately held, you can guard against that.

2018-10-17 07:12:16 UTC  

or just phone the guys at the other company and agree to stay above a certain price
or advertise your products so differently that consumers can't compare properly

2018-10-17 07:12:17 UTC  

There is a myriad ways to undercut a startup with a big wealth

2018-10-17 07:12:20 UTC  

The main point I think is that we regulate wrong.

2018-10-17 07:12:33 UTC  

Our regulations are set to make it harder to compete

2018-10-17 07:12:40 UTC  

not to make it harder to monopolize.

2018-10-17 07:13:00 UTC  

then there's also sectors where infrastructure costs create natural monopolies (broadband, utilities)

2018-10-17 07:13:16 UTC  

Corporatism favors the big companies. Capitalism creates a more even playing field.

2018-10-17 07:13:23 UTC  

Any industry should be disruptable.

2018-10-17 07:13:26 UTC  

<:thonkraka:430185885720510475>

2018-10-17 07:13:32 UTC  

@RyeNorth Yup. You got it right.

2018-10-17 07:14:12 UTC  

Perhaps disallowing corporations to own intellectual property might help.

2018-10-17 07:14:44 UTC  

Specifically what comes to mind is the pharmaceutical industry.

2018-10-17 07:15:24 UTC  

IP is such a silly concept
owning ideas or concepts makes no sense

2018-10-17 07:15:24 UTC  

Part of the corruption in that field is that it's prohibitively expensive to compete, regardless of how easy a drug is to manufacture.

2018-10-17 07:15:40 UTC  

I can kind of get it for creative purposes

2018-10-17 07:15:45 UTC  

State should also do the kind of "baseline regulation" in some cases, i.e. offer the services at the low (but fair) price so that there would be a baseline and jacking prices up would be not viable for the private sector (unless they can offer some excellent addition that is worth more)