or at least close to their level

i.e. "my exwife fucked me over in a divorce, i hate women now"

because we're, for all intents and purposes

living in their world

THAT's their victory

so long as they achieve this?

they win

some ppl might have but i really dont shut my mouth

have you read 1984?

yes

do you know the effect of censorship?

it's true power?

the brain washing properties it has?

If you manage to obscure the information it works great.

The sheer amount of people that hated Stalin after they realized what the REAL death toll was.

That surprised me

yes i do but that is more relevant when talking about europe or the UK, where there is actual 1984 legislation being added on top of this.

"Oh they didn't know."

you can't control it, you can't hide, you can't lie your way out of it, one way or another you'll eventually yell out "Julia! Julia!"

still i know what you are seeing tho

you'll feel insane if you're the only person saying the one sane thing

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1npL-TNFOAQ>

wasn't there a movie that illustrated this wonderfully?

plenty

something regarding a mother and a plane?

demolition man

a mother goes to a plane with her daughter and the daughter vanishes and everyone in the plane tells her she never brought a daughter onto the plane

still this state will never be achieved

its like with communism

its anti-nature

The situation you just described.

everyone tells you you never had a daughter

Is called me arguing with 7 people in this chat.

it doesn't matter how much you know that to be true

yeah i know which movie u mean

"I'm right. All of you people are wrong"
"THERE SCRIB GOES AGAIN"

everyone around you tells you it's a lie, so it feels like a faint dream eventually

Only difference is, I have gamergate fresh in my memory. To assure me that there can indeed be thousands of bullshitters to one sane person.

yes

GamerGate was invaluable to knowing the patterns