lol

guess you gotta hang up your beak msk now

a bunch of people sacrificing animals on an altar are just a bunch of retarded pagns high on drugs

they arent performing magic lol

https://people.com/music/azealia-banks-witchcraft-brujeria-peta-statement/

https://www.parareligion.ch/bowie.htm

you cant just post people who do it

@ComradeChaos Sometimes I like to touch my wiener and then it creates fairy dust, and my minder gets mad at me
Am I a magical creature? Can I go to Hogwards?

we need to know what it does

if someone came up to me in 1400 and said "I can make shit explode" I'd want to know how

not just that he claims people in china are doing it

and that it supposedly works

No that's not right, you have to beliiiiiieve

No, you don't have to believe

The magic only works if you believe kay?

You do need to read the book to understand the metaphysics though. This is from the Kybalion which is and of itself a dumbed down version of the Corpus Hermticum http://thirdmonk.net/postcont/2013/10/Ancient-Future-7-Principles-Glyphs1.jpg

>she says shes magic so she must be

well college kids tell me communism works

sol i should belive them???

@Machinimal It's not about belief, it's about having a system for understanding and breaking down natural phenomenon using poetic dialectics.

bibble says jesus was resurrected, how do I know? read the bibble

How do you prove the Bible was right? Read the Bible

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, just that it works as a system for categorizing patterns and information. Through understanding those patterns you can exploit them

the problem with simply using metaphysics is that by definition it's grasping at straws

It's post hoc ergo propter hoc

Metaphysics is actually a concept, whereas magic is not 😄

Imagine not realizing that ceremonial magic is the exploitation of metaphysics to impart your will on the environment

I impart my will on the environment by punching Nazis

but you've yet to prove they are exploitable

@Machinimal If you don't do it for yourself, you won't believe me anyways

or that they even exist in the capacity that these occult texts do

you're telling me to read occult literature and attempt to perform rituals just to see if they work?

Yes, don't do anything crazy

Even if the stuff works, some of it can be vile

is this a "you must believe in a thing for it to be real" sort of thing?

no

that's what it sounds like just dropping in with out knowing much about what you have talked about.

ok but I'm lazy, hasn't anyone tried some of this stuff and documented it in a verifiable way

occultist peer review

spoiler alert

none of them work