Message from @faultfiction

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2020-03-06 11:28:50 UTC  

free market = "relatively uninhabited ability to bring products and servers to that market"

2020-03-06 11:29:18 UTC  

in your words

2020-03-06 11:29:22 UTC  

everyone has access to markets

2020-03-06 11:29:56 UTC  

yes everyone has access to markets... but the businesses need to be able to bring theirs

2020-03-06 11:29:57 UTC  

but not everyone is interested in all the products in the market

2020-03-06 11:30:23 UTC  

whats stopping businesses from bringing their products to their markets? If their product is shit don't blame the markets

2020-03-06 11:31:02 UTC  

So how does that market exist without also having the relatively unrestricted ability to develop products and services. The market is a demand that needs fulfilling, if your preventing from fulfilling it then you have nothing.

2020-03-06 11:31:06 UTC  

just like saying "whats stopping people from going on the internet and finding netscape" ... the courts disagree with you, they say this is not a free market

2020-03-06 11:31:37 UTC  

we are not talking about courts, we are talking about a scenario where there is no regulation and restrictions

2020-03-06 11:31:50 UTC  

hence billions in fines and having to create a browser choice system

2020-03-06 11:32:05 UTC  

no... a free market NEEDs regulation

2020-03-06 11:32:32 UTC  

just like if you want free speech, something needs to protect that

2020-03-06 11:32:34 UTC  

if it needs regulation it also needs enforcers

2020-03-06 11:32:45 UTC  

external agencies

2020-03-06 11:32:47 UTC  

more like protectors

2020-03-06 11:32:50 UTC  

I agree with you wacka, unregulated free markets become exploitative very quickly.

2020-03-06 11:32:59 UTC  

so like the government you mean

2020-03-06 11:33:09 UTC  

theres no such thing as an unregulated free market

2020-03-06 11:33:35 UTC  

there are free markets ... and there are unregulated markets

2020-03-06 11:33:55 UTC  

wait what

2020-03-06 11:34:11 UTC  

Free markets are not really free and they need regulation but there are also unregulated markets

2020-03-06 11:34:17 UTC  

what

2020-03-06 11:35:01 UTC  

if a market isnt regulated I cant see how it can be free... unless no-one even tries to compete

2020-03-06 11:35:43 UTC  

the second you come to the first business theyre going to say "dont go to that guy, he sucks"

2020-03-06 11:35:44 UTC  

so for a markets to be truly free you need to impose regulations on it

2020-03-06 11:35:51 UTC  

Sorry wacka, I'm not one to fire dictionary definitions at people, but a free market is a market where the prices of goods and services are determined by the demand of the consumer with little or no regulatory control.

2020-03-06 11:36:27 UTC  

whats with the ARE in capitals

2020-03-06 11:37:09 UTC  

workin wahmen

2020-03-06 11:37:28 UTC  

If a free market is regulated it ain't a free market.

2020-03-06 11:37:59 UTC  

Thank you, finally we can stop worrying about monopolies in a free markets

2020-03-06 11:38:08 UTC  

Thats why America ain't a free market and that Scandinavia is a Freer market.

2020-03-06 11:38:32 UTC  

My whole argument rests on the need for the bare minimum of regulation to ensure consumers are not exploited and the solutions to the markets demands are fit for purpose and safe. This obviously requires a regulatory body and this in my opinion should be controlled by a Democratic framework nested inside that of a democratic governmental structure.

2020-03-06 11:38:57 UTC  

Molopolies only exist because of Lobbying to create a less competitive market.

2020-03-06 11:39:06 UTC  

If you cant get your product to the market its not free

2020-03-06 11:39:36 UTC  

The Molopolies are there because of the government regulations.

2020-03-06 11:39:39 UTC  

if customers cant even see your product, its not a free market

2020-03-06 11:39:43 UTC  

if you can't get your products to the market maybe your product is really shit

2020-03-06 11:39:48 UTC  

and nobody wants it

2020-03-06 11:39:55 UTC  

monpolies exist because of a lack of regulation

2020-03-06 11:40:04 UTC  

How do you know if its never presented to the consumer?