no they wont fault... as long as the customers can still find other products just as easy

and if they don't or wont want to

if their product is bad, then yeah.. it will be clear

if businesses are hindering access, then it wont be clear

no im saying they don't want any other products and are happy with it despite it killing competition

so in an unregulated market, bad products will stay around longer, because they think their product is good, but its just not getting access to people to test it.

so your basis for the principle here is that as long as it's tested by other people it clears the definiton for the free market principle

in a free market they will know that consumers have made an informed decision to go with another company

why do you think people would make informed choices?

some people just buy products because of the packaging

some will...

you're trying to generalise a subjective opinion into the market principle

as a means for testing it's value

is the government going to make better decisions on behalf of the people

markets bad, reintroduce palace economy

the government has no decision to make

the principle there is that since it's the people making that choice it should follow that

either people make the choice or government does

people delegate with their votes, now the mechanism and the operation is a different issue

really... so if the government says "we will not restrict your speech" .. thats the government telling you what to say?

if the government says we will not restrict your speech what do you think that means

if the gov says "we will protect your right to say whatever you want" .. thats the government making the decision on the words that will come out of your mouth?

do you want the right to say whatever you want?

the government doesnt make the decision... its making sure you can make it

The goverment provides the protection and the legislation for you to be able to do that

in theory at least

its not going to protect you when your speech gets you punched but it gives you the means to use your rights as is legislated to get the compensation in whatever form is provided

I think people are sometimes stupid but we should be free to make stupid choices, there's no such thing as benevolent tyranny

well technically there are other laws that are supposed to protect you from getting punched...

Good

depends how your stupid choices affect other people... like... people shouldnt be able to throw a bucket of tacs over a motorway

Yeah that'd be pretty fucking annoying

but thank god for governments

oh.. turkey announced ceasefire after erdogans visit with putin

I guess assad will take back idlib

there was some bbc reporters doing a little story on it last night...

as usually they were just filming the women... and I dont know if it was by accident.. but they panned the camera around and it was just 100% men 😛

putting aside whether or not a hypothetical "free market" is good or not it's not really worth debating because it's a fictional concept

IIIII like new york in juuune .... how about youuuuuu

winners of market competition will use their resources to get the body that presides over it to regulate in their favor, i don't think there's really any getting around this

There isn't