if the government says we will not restrict your speech what do you think that means

if the gov says "we will protect your right to say whatever you want" .. thats the government making the decision on the words that will come out of your mouth?

do you want the right to say whatever you want?

the government doesnt make the decision... its making sure you can make it

The goverment provides the protection and the legislation for you to be able to do that

in theory at least

its not going to protect you when your speech gets you punched but it gives you the means to use your rights as is legislated to get the compensation in whatever form is provided

I think people are sometimes stupid but we should be free to make stupid choices, there's no such thing as benevolent tyranny

well technically there are other laws that are supposed to protect you from getting punched...

Good

depends how your stupid choices affect other people... like... people shouldnt be able to throw a bucket of tacs over a motorway

Yeah that'd be pretty fucking annoying

but thank god for governments

oh.. turkey announced ceasefire after erdogans visit with putin

I guess assad will take back idlib

there was some bbc reporters doing a little story on it last night...

as usually they were just filming the women... and I dont know if it was by accident.. but they panned the camera around and it was just 100% men 😛

putting aside whether or not a hypothetical "free market" is good or not it's not really worth debating because it's a fictional concept

IIIII like new york in juuune .... how about youuuuuu

winners of market competition will use their resources to get the body that presides over it to regulate in their favor, i don't think there's really any getting around this

There isn't

maybe you could say like it could be done under an autocrat or somethiinnng

It wouldn't

that didn't really last when it waas tried in chile though

people got poorer over time

in real terms

not just relative

except for the very rich, of course

What happened there

granted you can argue that maybe some state interventions on behalf of capitalists in chile contravened the idea of a free market

and obviously not everything was privatized

though chile came much closer to that idea than the vast majority of country's i think

pinochet

augusto pinochet took power over chile in a military coup and implemented super economically liberal reforms on the advice of the chicago boys

almost everything was privatized, regulations were slashed, welfare was slashed, and so on

was that after Allende?

yeah

over the 20 year span of pinochet's junta most chileans actively got poorer (in real terms, not poorer in the sense of just more inequality, although that happened to of course), caloric intake plummeted, homelessness skyrocketed, and pinochet eventually abdicated

they did the same thing to chile what they did to Haitians

export oriented economy for the freedom boys

some people might point to a place like singapore tho as a free market autocratic (which it isn't an autocracy necessarily though you could say it's a de facto one party state) success