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I never mentioned employing slaves
Or
Turning slaves into employees
But where you are not offering a wage you are paying for their upkeep. Paying a wage waivers responsibility for food or housing.
Again you are trying to relate a moral arguement to an economic one
To summarise
Im not im telling you that the morality is not an argument at all here because of the principles of economics being involved.
Free Labour
No wages
It’s not free. That’s not point.
Let me loop this back to your original example
Owning a slave comes with the requirement of feeding them and housing them or just leaving them in the farms
You argued that if less poverty is an arguement for capitalism then better welfare for slaves is an argument for slavery
Doesn’t having slaves cause a negative effect on innovation as slave labour is cheap and there will be no drive on inventing labour saving technology.
In this case
There is no such thing as free labour. Unless you have a constantly supply of new slaves you do not pay for who you can expend without feeding or housing, it is not free.
The welfare of slaves
Is a moral concern
The economic standing of the impoverished
Is an economic concern
to work hard
Not necessarily
Yes and no.
Slaves can be made to work hard with a whip
you don't want them to be fit from the goodness of your heart
A slave barely able to get through the day and just about survives is one who can’t rebel after work.
A really fit slave is capable of rebelling.
If i owned slaves i would feed them the bear minimum to survive and would simply coerce them to work through threats of violence, this is the cheapest and most economically efficent. Say your arguement about slave welfare was an economic one then better treated slaves would cost more to own and likely do less work
So are 1000 weak slaves against one master
That isnt the arguement
How will they be likely to do less work?
One master who has 200 overseers with guns.
Better welfare is a byproduct of more sleep
so the fit one has n chance either Slen
Oh they would.
And therefore
Less work
This conversation is totally of the rails
better welfare can be two meals a day instead of one
If all of them were fit they could overwhelm their overseers.