Message from @Eccles
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regardless, there's some incorrect data, we're asking, why and who is wrong
its the same totals
I'll go off Arcgis as it's official
fk off aussie
they said likely 5-10k few days ago so who knows what it would be now
interesting it fell over the weekend
maybe people are being sufficiently paranoid
arcgis isn't a source 🙂
no it's not, it's a dashbord used by Public Health England
@system11 maybe the british people are not generally retarded and don't need nanny state to be safe
Carl's latest video was gay
He does not believe in Britain, he believes in a United States of Britain. His plan of reducing immigration is a 'solution' that will only hold so long as there are people in power willing to enforce it~
still watching it
seems sound so far
That's a retarded accusation, Doofus, Carl doesn't have the ability to implement his solution, and neither is there the remotest scope of people in power doing so
He's giving his opinion, nothing more, nothing less
That in itself is a retarded deduction.
"doesn't have the ability to implement his solution" nothing about what I said mentioned himself **actually** implementing it nor people actually doing it. No, his opinion and solution is itself retarded
he doesn't offer a solution
He offers reducing immigration to 50.000 rather than the hundreds of thousands that they are and believes that with time, the non-EU immigrations migrating away from the UK would normalize the situation
depends what you think "the situation" is that needs normalizing
you still have the fact that there are too many old people
"too many"/
and not enough people in work to support old people
that's not the fault of the old people
no it isn't
because all the pension systems were made on the assumption that there would be the same proportion of old people and in work people
but that assumption was proven wrong
proven wrong on two counts
of course, rather then do something to encourage more children.
Governments turned to immigration as a quick fix
and we're all agreed we don't want that
yep
you need fewer old people retiring, more young people going into the jobs market, and the birth rate to go up
and that is hard.
People will be angry if they try to do something like raise the pension age.
they already are doing it
have done it
that is easy compared to goal 2 and 3.
How do you get the birth rate up?
The quickest way would be some sort of financial incentive to settle down and have kids
but it seems like our society has become one were having children is seen as a negative thing.
At least until you achieve your career goals, and by the time you achieve them you are past fertility age
you need to stomp on this identity politics bs for a start
you need to sell marriage
you need for a single wage to allow a family to live on