Message from @Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ

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2020-03-19 15:17:31 UTC  

"compassion"

2020-03-19 15:17:45 UTC  

the state exists because we allow it to

2020-03-19 15:17:49 UTC  

lmao

2020-03-19 15:17:55 UTC  

try to overthrow the state let me know how it works out for you

2020-03-19 15:18:02 UTC  

says the communist

2020-03-19 15:18:04 UTC  

you always live under the compassion of the state

2020-03-19 15:18:18 UTC  

regardless of whether it's a capitalist, corporatist, or socialist state

2020-03-19 15:18:20 UTC  

The communists actually did overthrow the state but then fell for it

2020-03-19 15:18:27 UTC  

proving yet again that you cannot overthrow it

2020-03-19 15:18:53 UTC  

thats such a confusing thing to say

2020-03-19 15:19:02 UTC  

that's because communists are weirdly utopian fellers with no concept of how nature works

2020-03-19 15:19:23 UTC  

What are you Eccles?

2020-03-19 15:19:29 UTC  

the communists overthrew the state proving that you cant overthrow the state

2020-03-19 15:19:29 UTC  

Libertarian?

2020-03-19 15:19:32 UTC  

Thirsty, ff

2020-03-19 15:19:42 UTC  

lol, libertarian. no

2020-03-19 15:20:39 UTC  

i think that's because they then became the state, puggums

2020-03-19 15:20:45 UTC  

The communist overthrew a monarchy then built the state mechanism but they were still under it. The state exists because the economic system thats built on the means of surplus production exists.

2020-03-19 15:21:02 UTC  

are we talking about the september rev

2020-03-19 15:21:09 UTC  

there was no september revolution

2020-03-19 15:21:12 UTC  

October

2020-03-19 15:21:13 UTC  

it was february and october

2020-03-19 15:21:17 UTC  

yeah yeah tehres a bunch

2020-03-19 15:21:17 UTC  

hierarchy is inevitable because nature

2020-03-19 15:21:35 UTC  

and if hierarchy is inevitable, states, or hierarchies that approximate a state will always tend to exist

2020-03-19 15:21:36 UTC  

Commies overthrew a Republic

2020-03-19 15:22:22 UTC  

Anarchists will always be the weakest of the bunch

2020-03-19 15:22:31 UTC  

even in the USSR they used incentives to make peopel work harder

2020-03-19 15:22:45 UTC  

the chacne to own a car for example

2020-03-19 15:22:49 UTC  

or to move into a nicer house

2020-03-19 15:22:52 UTC  

Whas your political ideology Eccles?

2020-03-19 15:23:23 UTC  

do you guys know why Russia became a socialist state?

2020-03-19 15:23:33 UTC  

because it was a tsarist shithole

2020-03-19 15:23:47 UTC  

Because it was a *shitehole

2020-03-19 15:24:00 UTC  

Slavs

2020-03-19 15:24:01 UTC  

lol

2020-03-19 15:24:27 UTC  

poor and underdeveloped with an authoritive gov

2020-03-19 15:24:33 UTC  

like most revelutions

2020-03-19 15:26:05 UTC  

Anarchists should remember to never trust a commie lmao

2020-03-19 15:27:22 UTC  

thats why we have helicopters

2020-03-19 15:27:46 UTC  

Yes so when the serfs started revolting and russia lost the crimean war it abolished serfdom and started to build industries to invest in new economies, but they failed to create conditions for the peasants to transition, there was famines and half a million died but the tsar instead sold the grains abroad instead of giving it to the starving population. Combined with the treatment of women and workers in factories people wanted to overcome their class roles, hence the socialist revolution. When they won in 1917, there was a civil war against Russia from foreign countries who didn't want a socialist country combined with the civil war and the world wars and the famines and the nascent industrilisation it wasn't a great start.
Stalin had a different vision for the country and it went back to regressive conservatism. There was also a decline in births in the country. There were many factors at play here but cOmMuNiSm kIlLz seem to be the argument usually put forward in this server