Message from @Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ
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"compassion"
the state exists because we allow it to
lmao
try to overthrow the state let me know how it works out for you
says the communist
you always live under the compassion of the state
regardless of whether it's a capitalist, corporatist, or socialist state
The communists actually did overthrow the state but then fell for it
proving yet again that you cannot overthrow it
thats such a confusing thing to say
that's because communists are weirdly utopian fellers with no concept of how nature works
What are you Eccles?
the communists overthrew the state proving that you cant overthrow the state
Libertarian?
Thirsty, ff
lol, libertarian. no
i think that's because they then became the state, puggums
The communist overthrew a monarchy then built the state mechanism but they were still under it. The state exists because the economic system thats built on the means of surplus production exists.
are we talking about the september rev
there was no september revolution
it was february and october
yeah yeah tehres a bunch
hierarchy is inevitable because nature
and if hierarchy is inevitable, states, or hierarchies that approximate a state will always tend to exist
Commies overthrew a Republic
Anarchists will always be the weakest of the bunch
even in the USSR they used incentives to make peopel work harder
the chacne to own a car for example
or to move into a nicer house
Whas your political ideology Eccles?
do you guys know why Russia became a socialist state?
because it was a tsarist shithole
Because it was a *shitehole
Slavs
lol
poor and underdeveloped with an authoritive gov
like most revelutions
Anarchists should remember to never trust a commie lmao
thats why we have helicopters
Yes so when the serfs started revolting and russia lost the crimean war it abolished serfdom and started to build industries to invest in new economies, but they failed to create conditions for the peasants to transition, there was famines and half a million died but the tsar instead sold the grains abroad instead of giving it to the starving population. Combined with the treatment of women and workers in factories people wanted to overcome their class roles, hence the socialist revolution. When they won in 1917, there was a civil war against Russia from foreign countries who didn't want a socialist country combined with the civil war and the world wars and the famines and the nascent industrilisation it wasn't a great start.
Stalin had a different vision for the country and it went back to regressive conservatism. There was also a decline in births in the country. There were many factors at play here but cOmMuNiSm kIlLz seem to be the argument usually put forward in this server