Message from @wacka
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Eccles you need to stop trying so hard
that's not what labour et all had been suggesting, ff
muhhgreenrevolution!
it's bullshit
cope
Yeah Labour wanted to invest in new industries to create new jobs. It might be hard to hear this but those are the facts buddy but because you hate *leftists* so much its no wonder you think this way
when the IMF study concludes austerity was bad you guise think you're smarter than them
the people who fund the world in a way know less than you guise in a discord server
actually this guy is stating specifically " increase government spending both to create jobs directly and to put money in consumers’ pockets" ... not banks
yes which is what we need, we need to develop more industries and create more jobs
not fund the same corporations and bail out the same industries over and over again
the private sector is better at that than the gov
specially in the long term
lol
RE: Greece
like what, ff?
I wonder if this guy has changed his mind now...
he agrees you cant be in deficit forever... and he couldnt have predicted this pandemic...
However, there are aspects of the neoliberal agenda that have not delivered as expected. Our assessment of the agenda is confined to the effects of two policies: removing restrictions on the movement of capital across a country’s borders (so-called capital account liberalization); and fiscal consolidation, sometimes called “austerity,” which is shorthand for policies to reduce fiscal deficits and debt levels. An assessment of these specific policies (rather than the broad neoliberal agenda) reaches three disquieting conclusions:
•The benefits in terms of increased growth seem fairly difficult to establish when looking at a broad group of countries.
•The costs in terms of increased inequality are prominent. Such costs epitomize the trade-off between the growth and equity effects of some aspects of the neoliberal agenda.
•Increased inequality in turn hurts the level and sustainability of growth. Even if growth is the sole or main purpose of the neoliberal agenda, advocates of that agenda still need to pay attention to the distributional effects.
even if he thinks he was right at the time... perhaps his argument now would be that we "accidentally made the right decision"
talks about "the people" as "plebs" and economists as "elites"
The evidence of the economic damage from inequality suggests that policymakers should be more open to redistribution than they are. Of course, apart from redistribution, policies could be designed to mitigate some of the impacts in advance—for instance, through increased spending on education and training, which expands equality of opportunity (so-called predistribution policies). And fiscal consolidation strategies—when they are needed—could be designed to minimize the adverse impact on low-income groups. But in some cases, the untoward distributional consequences will have to be remedied after they occur by using taxes and government spending to redistribute income. Fortunately, the fear that such policies will themselves necessarily hurt growth is unfounded (Ostry, 2014).
something something something - demand socialism
funny you always seem to rely on it when you need bailouts
bailouts were more like buyouts
you can say it however you want it doesn't change the fact that the government had to rescue them
it didnt have to, it chose to
not saying it was right or wrong to... but it was a decision that was taken, and we paid the price for it, for a decade
you could argue the real problem was back in 2005/6 when brown unregulated everything
and for whatever reason our banks decided to get in the US mortgage area
27 October 1986
That was what allowed them to partner with US banks
i certainly don't have a problem with governments buying stakes in companies because of this apocalypse
i do have a problem with government just randomly bailing out failing businesses who are failing because they're shit and failing
Boom and bust is a natural part of economics
i do have a problem with money just being handed out to companies willynilly, for whatver purpose
get ready for ff and his something-something-something socialism