Message from @wacka

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2020-03-20 10:14:48 UTC  

that's why we shouldn't just be handing out cash to companies without demanding a slice of their shares in return

2020-03-20 10:15:02 UTC  

The printing money is not just printing money for no reason. Its to invest in industries and create the environment for the economy to thrive. not to give it out and throw it around

2020-03-20 10:15:06 UTC  

geez you guise are fucking morons

2020-03-20 10:15:21 UTC  

Eccles you need to stop trying so hard

2020-03-20 10:15:21 UTC  

that's not what labour et all had been suggesting, ff

2020-03-20 10:15:39 UTC  

muhhgreenrevolution!

2020-03-20 10:15:41 UTC  

it's bullshit

2020-03-20 10:15:44 UTC  

cope

2020-03-20 10:16:48 UTC  

Yeah Labour wanted to invest in new industries to create new jobs. It might be hard to hear this but those are the facts buddy but because you hate *leftists* so much its no wonder you think this way

2020-03-20 10:17:06 UTC  

when the IMF study concludes austerity was bad you guise think you're smarter than them

2020-03-20 10:17:27 UTC  

the people who fund the world in a way know less than you guise in a discord server

2020-03-20 10:17:59 UTC  

actually this guy is stating specifically " increase government spending both to create jobs directly and to put money in consumers’ pockets" ... not banks

2020-03-20 10:18:47 UTC  

yes which is what we need, we need to develop more industries and create more jobs

2020-03-20 10:19:12 UTC  

not fund the same corporations and bail out the same industries over and over again

2020-03-20 10:19:24 UTC  

the private sector is better at that than the gov

2020-03-20 10:19:29 UTC  

specially in the long term

2020-03-20 10:19:30 UTC  

lol

2020-03-20 10:19:36 UTC  

RE: Greece

2020-03-20 10:19:41 UTC  

like what, ff?

2020-03-20 10:21:18 UTC  

I wonder if this guy has changed his mind now...

2020-03-20 10:21:43 UTC  

he agrees you cant be in deficit forever... and he couldnt have predicted this pandemic...

2020-03-20 10:22:03 UTC  

However, there are aspects of the neoliberal agenda that have not delivered as expected. Our assessment of the agenda is confined to the effects of two policies: removing restrictions on the movement of capital across a country’s borders (so-called capital account liberalization); and fiscal consolidation, sometimes called “austerity,” which is shorthand for policies to reduce fiscal deficits and debt levels. An assessment of these specific policies (rather than the broad neoliberal agenda) reaches three disquieting conclusions:

•The benefits in terms of increased growth seem fairly difficult to establish when looking at a broad group of countries.­

•The costs in terms of increased inequality are prominent. Such costs epitomize the trade-off between the growth and equity effects of some aspects of the neoliberal agenda.­

•Increased inequality in turn hurts the level and sustainability of growth. Even if growth is the sole or main purpose of the neoliberal agenda, advocates of that agenda still need to pay attention to the distributional effects.­

2020-03-20 10:22:15 UTC  

even if he thinks he was right at the time... perhaps his argument now would be that we "accidentally made the right decision"

2020-03-20 10:25:43 UTC  

also this guy seems like a bit of a fascist

2020-03-20 10:26:01 UTC  

talks about "the people" as "plebs" and economists as "elites"

2020-03-20 10:26:43 UTC  

The evidence of the economic damage from inequality suggests that policymakers should be more open to redistribution than they are. Of course, apart from redistribution, policies could be designed to mitigate some of the impacts in advance—for instance, through increased spending on education and training, which expands equality of opportunity (so-called predistribution policies). And fiscal consolidation strategies—when they are needed—could be designed to minimize the adverse impact on low-income groups. But in some cases, the untoward distributional consequences will have to be remedied after they occur by using taxes and government spending to redistribute income. Fortunately, the fear that such policies will themselves necessarily hurt growth is unfounded (Ostry, 2014).

2020-03-20 10:27:04 UTC  

something something something - demand socialism

2020-03-20 10:27:23 UTC  

funny you always seem to rely on it when you need bailouts

2020-03-20 10:27:50 UTC  

bailouts were more like buyouts

2020-03-20 10:28:14 UTC  

you can say it however you want it doesn't change the fact that the government had to rescue them

2020-03-20 10:28:30 UTC  

it didnt have to, it chose to

2020-03-20 10:29:38 UTC  

not saying it was right or wrong to... but it was a decision that was taken, and we paid the price for it, for a decade

2020-03-20 10:30:31 UTC  

you could argue the real problem was back in 2005/6 when brown unregulated everything

2020-03-20 10:30:58 UTC  

and for whatever reason our banks decided to get in the US mortgage area

2020-03-20 10:34:08 UTC  

27 October 1986

2020-03-20 10:35:16 UTC  

That was what allowed them to partner with US banks

2020-03-20 10:37:47 UTC  

i certainly don't have a problem with governments buying stakes in companies because of this apocalypse

2020-03-20 10:38:02 UTC  

i do have a problem with government just randomly bailing out failing businesses who are failing because they're shit and failing

2020-03-20 10:38:38 UTC  

Yes exactly @Eccles