@AdamBv1 That twitter thread about Italy has a lot of language like "may become necessary"

It's frightening how quickly it has come to where it is, but that guidance alone is not evidence that this sort of triage is happening.

0 to spaghetti in 5 days

🙂

A German bro just told me they’re in lock down too

I'm not sure they are implementing it yet but from what I'm hearing the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed so going forward they might/probably will have to start making these choices on if they let the old and infirm die with minimal treatment to save the ones with likely better outcomes.

When push comes to shove... women, children

Men get in the fucking ovens yoruself

Suck it up cannon fodder

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Yeah it doesn't take much to push an ICU to the breaking point. Most hospitals don't really have very many ICU beds. And that's just equipment; In the US, intensive care at the best hospitals means a 1:2 or even 1:1 nursing ratio. That's just not going to be an option.

And healthcare workers not being super careful themselves or lacking proper PPE means they get infected and can't treat patients anymore leading to more issues.

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I think California actually has a law mandating a 1:2 ratio in the ICU

As far as PPE, most of our staff had to recertify on respirators a few weeks ago. I'd expect that other hospitals have been doing the same.

Probably.

I just got fit tested myself 🙂 pain in the area but hey. Takes a lot of time to do on mass

I have been spending a good bit of time working in a local hospital but mostly on the admin side so I don't know what the nurses and doctors have been doing lately.

China posted a doco of how well their icu isolation wards are

It takes 45 mins to get into a hazmat suit

3 hrs working

45 mins to get out

They didn't make me do the fit test because I'm non-clinical. I'm just the guy every patient's family coughs on.

You dead now

You work in a hospital or something?

Barely

Visitor receptionist

What level of ppe you wearing?

Mandate vs optional?

Gloves optional, masks not allowed unless we're showing symptoms due to the shortage

Oooff

Byo mask?

I was in the billing office of a hospital today, off site from the main hospital, and they were rounding up masks from the dispensers near the door due to shortages and theft.

I don't care if I get it. No kids, elderly relatives hundreds of miles away, and I'm 31 and healthy. The issue is me contaminating a couple hundred people in a single day

You have to ask for a mask at the desk now, can't just grab one.

Yeah we keep them behind the counter now. Too many people were walking out the door with whole boxes.

there was actually a translated interview a few days ago

that indicated they were implementing a sort of triage

to that effect

So maybe it is really happening and not just early guidance

Well its crappy to think about but better than the split the baby approach leading to more dead.