indoctrination you mean

"mmm it's not like nz has a native population that would fight to the death for it not to happen" I actually doubt that, a lot of New Zealanders would accept union with Australia, especially if it was widely perceived that the only alternative was Chinese Hegemony. New Zealanders aren't really "nationalistic", they're patriotic but that can be easily framed in a pro-federation way. "nz and australia share values like the rest of western countries." NZ and Australia's values are far similar then NZ and Germanys values or NZ and Frances values.

assimilation can happen naturally via incentives and campaigns, so no, not through force

You've never met nz people. or native nz peoples. They killed thousands because they refused to be colonized.

I've met hundreds of them lmao

I used to live near them, they're very patriotic and the similarities with Australians are astounding, you could easily find common ground.

" because they refused to be colonized." Federation isn't colonization, this is like saying Prussia uniting Germany was colonization.

bro it's just getting annoying cause you don't actually know the history behind these countries. What it actually took for things to be the way they are. and why nz views it self the way it does. You're a globalist and you can't see the mistakes in your logic because you're fueled by an agenda. No benefit to any country "but lets just do it any ways because "enter stupid reason that kills a culture""

i aint patriotic. i don't like australia nor do i like nz. but i understand what makes them different in massive ways.

It is a benefit to a the nation and the ethnos (culturally, spiritually and economically, as well as in a hundred other ways). Not my fault you dont understand the cultural similarities between the two people. in the 1800s there were various movements that succeeded in uniting culturally similar peoples into a single state, it can be easily replicated.

yes new zealand and austria are both cucked, but new zealand is even more pussified if possible

this really isn't a debate, the similarities outway the differences here

Austria isn't cucked, you're cucked

similarities outway the differences here, just like they did when the German states unified, or the Italian ones, or when Australia federated

australia is getting cucked by the chinese of all people, and they suck muzzie dicks

So the uk should of stayed in the ea?

people actually used similar stupid arguments to oppose federation in the 1890s.

and pretend aborigines were anything but the reality of them being cancer on two legs lul

You're also changing your argument. You said nz should become australia

Yeah I did say that, thats been my argument the entire time, how have I changed it?

uk shares soo many values with the rest of eu so they should of stayed right

no because the EU is a anti-nationalist project, it is anti-European and anti-white

in fact they should spread out even more because soo many other countries have sooo many of the same values. lets ignore the economic's of it. nooo it's only values that matter

YOU'RE ANTI-NATIONLIST

nice straw manning

you ignore economics you ignore the actual society difference's and i'm straw manning?

there's nothing anti-nationalist about wanting to unite a single ethnic group you mong, thats literally what it means to be a nationalist

they are not the same ethnic group

yes they are

you both like sheep, so just unite

New Zealanders are Anglo-Celtic, as are Australians, they are the same ethnos

constitution, no constitution. big difference right there mate

that's literally irrelevant, it wont matter in the end because the two nations will become one

yes just like the economics dont matter either

you have such a narrow mind set

the economics do matter obviously, but it isn't the driving force

if that was the case the uk would of never have joined the eu

The EU is a union, not a country, not an annexation.

the UK only joined the EU because of dumb fuck neoliberals and globalists who *only* cared about the economy

And the vast majority of Europeans wouldn't want the EU to become a country. That includes the youngest generations.

the two party system was corrupt and lots of being who put the ethnos first were forced into the background