yes just like the economics dont matter either

you have such a narrow mind set

the economics do matter obviously, but it isn't the driving force

if that was the case the uk would of never have joined the eu

The EU is a union, not a country, not an annexation.

the UK only joined the EU because of dumb fuck neoliberals and globalists who *only* cared about the economy

And the vast majority of Europeans wouldn't want the EU to become a country. That includes the youngest generations.

the two party system was corrupt and lots of being who put the ethnos first were forced into the background

What are we talking about?

the eu is trying to become a federation / a state

It can try, but it won't

it already is a soft federation

No it's not

@snake originally the idea of Federating New Zealand and Australia, now the EU apparently

it can enforce it's laws on other countries?

What, no it can't

Australia and New Zealand should become one country. It’s the same ethnos, people from the British isles, same religion, Protestant. So religion and genetics are the same, and geographically they’re right next to each other, same climate etc.

@snake the original point was making nz australia not a federation.

NZ should be annexed by Australia though.

The EU has no actual power in the truest sense of the word over its member countries, it can only negotiate with them.

It has very minimal power, but nothing of substance, nothing that can't be ended anytime for any reason.

Yeah it does? it hands out fines to party states (states being countries) it also puts sanctions on states. It's enforced through fines

Fines are not displays of power. A company can also fine people.

If you have a contract, you can fine someone.

The state exists purely to advance the nations interests. New Zealand and Australia are the same nation, why should there be two separate independent governments, that could possibly fight each other, doing that job?

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if that was the case then why does any country not pay the fines??

Because they have their part of the contract to uphold.

It's a process of *negotiation*

so just like american states?

“Uh so if one goes down the shitter the other one is fine!” Retarded argument, they’re both very subverted, and you don’t give up your country men, have loyalty, and if one goes down so does the other. I mean I’m just guessing at a counter argument here

No EU member state can be held at gunpoint by the EU. Unlike the states in the US, to which the president can absolutely send military if he sees fit and has the senate behind him afaik.

Austria should be annexed by Germany, Ukraine and Belarus should be annexed by Russia.

I have a better idea, your anus should be annexed by a scorpion

Coming out with the 5th grade insults?

Well that's what happens when you present stupid ideas 🤷‍♀️

My ideas are brilliant

They're barely 1st grade, now go bring the trash out kiddo

an army is old school way of doing things. sanction's are the modern way.

Not an argument.

it's war by a different means