Message from @Billionpig
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that was painful for me to watch I can't imagine how painful it was for you to participate in.
did we do well? That's what matters
The parts i saw were ok. I always in debates see instances where i felt like i personally could give better answers but seeing as i've never debated someone in that fashion I don't know whether i'd be able to verbalize that stuff on the fly.
Hopefully the discussion is kept on their channel so i can think a bit more deeply about it.
But as i mentioned with Sylack it's almost impossible to argue this with people that don't know what the scientific consensus is on heritability and intelligence to begin with.
what do you think I should have improved?
one sec gotta turn this music down.
w/ the opening discussion about race there's an overwhelming urge to push the debate down to as low a level as possible so that you're basically trudging in the snow. You might get the point about taxonomies being universally imperfect by using a closely related analogy.
If you're being asked about race you could say "You are starting out with self-defined subgroups whose groupings are due to historical / social / circumstantial factors. If we accept this partitioning of the human species into these groups, even if the partioning is supposely arbitrary, is the distinction purely imaginary or does are there "real" i.e. biological characteristics that allow these supposedly arbitrary groups to be identified.
I see. Yea I didn't think my answers were great but I knew he was going to quibble over the minutiae so I wanted it out of the way
to the race thing
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but like i said i've never been under pressure to provide questions so what i've written could very well be useless in a real conversation.
I only respond to people in text.
if you have anything else I'd like to hear it. As long as it seems clear to you we 'won' I consider it a success
I'd have to watch through it a second time and actually take notes. I might do that at a later time seeing as if more of these race realist debates start happening the information could be useful. I
It definitely started slow and got knotted up a few times in some odd details that didn't really matter. But talking to complete normies seems to have those pitfalls. Thanks to @The Goat doing this.
no porblem
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So, it looks like the alt-right may be the new target of the skeptics
We know who will lose.
man, he paints WNs as "others"
why tf is it bad to be proud of your race
but i agree - the skeptic community has to go for higher hanging fruit
The skeptic community is in its death throes.
well, more stagnant than anything
No it is dying for sure
especially if they don't confront fascists and the WNs
This is a frustrating problem. Talking to ppl willing to throw their own under the bus is becoming harder and harder
i also agree with peterson at the end there - oversimplification is rife within the alt-right
@NoMore Dogma They are our greatest enemies I would say
nah man
the greatest enemy is pathology, for us
the pathology of EQUALITY
Yes. Their centrism makes them out to be the moral high grounders. But they just avoid when we get down to it.
The worst thing for us is our own being traitorous.
the american dream mentality is very much alive