Message from @Mersenne

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2020-03-14 19:19:57 UTC  

the problem here is our prison system, not the idea of sentencing people to it

2020-03-14 19:20:02 UTC  

You can't punish someone after they've finished serving their sentence

2020-03-14 19:20:36 UTC  

the prison system wouldn't be so damn bad if we didn't sentence people for victimless crimes, for starters

2020-03-14 19:21:01 UTC  

and I am very much in support of the Blackstone Formulation

2020-03-14 19:21:02 UTC  

Depends on what you mean by victimless crimes

2020-03-14 19:21:07 UTC  

weed bro

2020-03-14 19:21:19 UTC  

fuck it, let em kill themselves with cocaine if they want

2020-03-14 19:21:24 UTC  

Weed buying is legal

2020-03-14 19:21:29 UTC  

depends on the state

2020-03-14 19:21:30 UTC  

Cocaine buying funds cartels

2020-03-14 19:21:37 UTC  

And the worst crimes imagineable

2020-03-14 19:21:50 UTC  

cartels are entirely dependent on illegal products

2020-03-14 19:22:04 UTC  

That's a common Trope I'm tired of hearing. The overwhelming majority of those kept in high security penitentiaries are the violent dregs of humanity. The existence of jails and prisons does not dilute the depth of their crimes.

2020-03-14 19:22:21 UTC  

Make cocaine legal, but selling it to kids or doing anything illegal while under influence is a guillotine sentence

2020-03-14 19:22:21 UTC  

The cartels in Portugal still make plenty of money

2020-03-14 19:22:27 UTC  

And Portugal decriminalized narcotics

2020-03-14 19:22:32 UTC  

"high-security" being the key word here

2020-03-14 19:22:50 UTC  

Portugal has a shit market

2020-03-14 19:23:04 UTC  

Portugal stopped being an economic power the moment spices stopped being expensive

2020-03-14 19:23:06 UTC  

What has to happen is legit businessess have to take over the cartel's market share

2020-03-14 19:23:18 UTC  

Much like bringing up the < 2% of abortions that result from rape, bringing up non-violent offenders is a cop-out to the actual argument. Which in this case, happens to be rapists that manage to be arrested rather than killed.

2020-03-14 19:23:30 UTC  

??

2020-03-14 19:23:45 UTC  

I said "victimless" not "non-violent"

2020-03-14 19:24:06 UTC  

Define it then, as I'm guessing it refers to the hyper-fucking-minority of prisoners.

2020-03-14 19:24:14 UTC  

nope, quite a large number

2020-03-14 19:24:18 UTC  

weed

2020-03-14 19:24:19 UTC  

Most shoplifters get fined

2020-03-14 19:24:21 UTC  

for example

2020-03-14 19:24:21 UTC  

Not atrested

2020-03-14 19:24:22 UTC  

You don't get dealt hard time for a "victimless" crime.

2020-03-14 19:24:36 UTC  

yes you do, dealing drugs gets you *a lot* of time

2020-03-14 19:24:42 UTC  

And there's a difference between arrested and convicted

2020-03-14 19:24:48 UTC  

Weed smoking is just something niggers prattle on about to distract from them all being criminals

2020-03-14 19:24:54 UTC  

Eg someone can be arrested and not convicted, or convicted and not arrested

2020-03-14 19:25:08 UTC  

@Lucienne d'Anwyl "alt-right now supports weed"

2020-03-14 19:25:18 UTC  

If you get caught with weed in ur car

2020-03-14 19:25:22 UTC  

That's basically dui

2020-03-14 19:25:25 UTC  

listen

2020-03-14 19:25:29 UTC  

Which is far from victimless

2020-03-14 19:25:34 UTC  

the shittiest people in society are most likely to smoke weed

2020-03-14 19:25:37 UTC  

if it keeps them docile