Message from @phadreus

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2020-03-17 14:50:52 UTC  

Making it misguided

2020-03-17 14:51:00 UTC  

You are not dealing with reality

2020-03-17 14:51:03 UTC  

@Greasy Altruism is a school of philosophy

2020-03-17 14:51:04 UTC  

Its what Rand called evasion

2020-03-17 14:51:08 UTC  

So there os a point

2020-03-17 14:51:17 UTC  

evasion is the most horrible thing one can do in life

2020-03-17 14:51:19 UTC  

you either accept that altruism is selfless, or you assume a human is incapable of acting selflessly. there is no middle ground and it changes little whichever side you pick

2020-03-17 14:51:19 UTC  

Rand said

2020-03-17 14:51:31 UTC  

Dealing with reality is vital

2020-03-17 14:51:48 UTC  

Charity isn't inherently selfish, altruism is because you're building an ideology around your own goodness. You embody it personally to fill an inner void.

2020-03-17 14:52:04 UTC  

You should be charitable when necessary and when it makes sense to be so

2020-03-17 14:52:30 UTC  

Constructing a philosophical identity from it is just narcissistic

2020-03-17 14:52:40 UTC  

charity is altruistic, yes?

2020-03-17 14:52:54 UTC  

@Greasy Yes but altruism isn't charity

2020-03-17 14:53:09 UTC  

then some altruistic actions are selfless, yes?

2020-03-17 14:53:20 UTC  

or at least not bad for being altruistic

2020-03-17 14:53:29 UTC  

No, because the starting point is different

2020-03-17 14:53:45 UTC  

In altruism you start from "I am a good person"

2020-03-17 14:53:45 UTC  

Selfishness is good

2020-03-17 14:53:58 UTC  

You do not have a right to demand charity of me by the threat of violence

2020-03-17 14:54:00 UTC  

With normal charity you start from "this person needs help"

2020-03-17 14:54:12 UTC  

I. A good person

2020-03-17 14:54:13 UTC  

The best way to help people is with true capitalism

2020-03-17 14:54:31 UTC  

We do not have capitalism today.

2020-03-17 14:54:35 UTC  

this is what I mean when I say it's impossible to argue such a point. the only difference is your own conception of what the word's inner nuance is, and there's no real meaning in fighting for such obviously mundane points

2020-03-17 14:54:40 UTC  

Not everyone is willing to satisfy the sexual desires of [REDACTED]

2020-03-17 14:55:06 UTC  

@Greasy That would be true if it were just a word and not a school of philosophy

2020-03-17 14:55:22 UTC  

that phrase you just uttered, that has no meaning

2020-03-17 14:55:31 UTC  

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2020-03-17 14:55:35 UTC  

Yeah, okay

2020-03-17 14:55:47 UTC  

Phad is super autistic

2020-03-17 14:55:54 UTC  

Don't worry about the dumb shit he says

2020-03-17 14:56:05 UTC  

@NinjaQuick Or maybe I'm just smarter than you

2020-03-17 14:56:16 UTC  

yeah, I tried to interact before. got him marked in notes as "semantics" now.

2020-03-17 14:57:03 UTC  

autism is superpower you dumb fucks

2020-03-17 14:57:08 UTC  

can sit here all day and play the semantic philosopher game, or you could actually try to discuss issues of human experience and societal function - like philosophers must surely be supposed to.

2020-03-17 14:57:18 UTC  

Phad you're pretty fucking stupid though

2020-03-17 14:57:23 UTC  

You sound like a post modernist phad

2020-03-17 14:57:26 UTC  

Mired in semantics