obviously the solution is not the erasure of due process
but the strengthening of it
No, it's not complex: it's primitive. That's how we used to do it not too long ago in Europe.
in addition to protection of the accused (and the communications to the public about that)
Rape has always been one of the most punished crimes in humanity.
it's been one of the most heinous
however, vulnerable victims go unheard
http://noisebreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/saw-torture-800x509.jpg
Those were the kinds of punishment for rape.
Except, perhaps, in places where you need 5 witnessess to prove you were raped
The narrative that we ever, ever, EVER had anything like a "rape culture" is absolutely, horrific BS.
in nazi-occupied poland, the public rapes of girls and married women carried out would go unpunished, because the order does not care
(or actively endorses the rapes)
Yes, in instances were women were raped in war, even worse was done to men.
uhhh i think not
in India, there are regions where there are undesired minorities
who are subject to heinous victimization
without representation in law
I will point to clinton who wisely said "women are the primary victims of war"
wise politically, to be sure.
clinton would certanly know about women victims
Anyway, that's why I say shit is complicated in India
omg shillary
It's not as black-and-white as "rape is taken seriously" or "rape is not taken seriously at all!"
it's more like "some rapes are not taken seriously, and the determination of how seriously rapes are taken is not a fair one!"
Don't forget the countries where sex outside of wedlock is punishable by death, so if you get raped and people find out you're either marrying the guy or are ready for death
which is my contention with making broad, sweeping statements about the treatment of rape in some countries.
The Congo for sure has what you might call a "rape culture"
Rape used to carry the death penalty.
There was no point in western culture at which we did not take rape seriously.
in that society, public gang rape of people related to you is sometimes considered appropriate punishment.
I think even in that sense it's not that clear cut
punishment for what
what does it matter?
seems... pretty rough that your sister should be raped because you stole a crate of grapes
curiosity?
equally rough if you killed a man
yeah, i can't think of any crime that punishment would fit, so i'm just curious where their value system places it
I am not intimately familiar with local determinations of the appropriateness of sibling rape as a punishment
^cheating
if you cheat on your husband that seems to fit punishment.
