@Dr.Wol true, but they have enough time to see how things work. They hopefully would be in a career and a land owner by then. If not, they don't need to vote.

Its not even necessarily about their smarts,

You'd have people like democrats siding with the emotional side for selfish purposes

to manipulate

i mean Bernie is almost 80, and he's a socialist

Bernie didn't have a job until his 40s

exactly

@DrinksForFree then imo i think it b a more reasonable argument to raise the voting age since there are tons of smart people living with family, in apartments etc.

which means he's not the only one

Youll then have a country in which you can buy a gun before you can vote

@devboi i agree there are smart people renting/living with parents/ exc. BUT they don't have a vested intrest in making america better becuase they don't own any land. They would want the gov to pay them more and the like.

I too liked the roman empire's system of voting

BTW constitutional carry was outlawed to keep blacks from owning guns. Gun l;aws are racist

Perhaps we should adopt their fire department model as well

no

you should adopt their conquering model

conquer any and all who oppose you 😉

Cant happen

It would require large hordes of savages to control europe

wait a sec

exactly

@DrinksForFree i understand where you are coming from but i think the meir fact of living in this great place is a reason to want your home (the us) to do well, and i think owning land is just a part of that

Dun dun dun.... *Smirks at Black.* Migrants...

America needs to focus on boosting our trade with asian countries and strengthen our friendship with them. Europe GDP is abysmal compared to asian countries. With how the EU keeps attacking America on issues, we should throw our lot with Japan

I agree... South Korea and Japan.

Asian countries are only succesful due to America paying them for humanitarian reasosn

@devboi I agree that just living here should make you want to make it better, but that is not the case anymore. The Dems are actively trying to make america worse to gain more power

@DrinksForFree also if economy is so important wouldnt just having a job here mean youd want the economy to do well and have that reason to vote

@Dr.Wol we don't pay them as much as we pay the EU and other european countries. Japan economy is directly the result of america rebuilding them in our image after WW2.

so stop the EU payments completely, you'll see how fast they'll shape up once daddy 'murica stops paying for their military

@devboi bill Mahr said he wants a depression to get rid of trump. Dems are trying to tank the economy to make it appear trumps fault

most EU leaders are pushovers anyway

@DrinksForFree as a Republican i can recognize that the view seems a bit 1 sided and most ppl dont want to see the fall of the us, even though we might think their policies will lead to that

@DrinksForFree ok well i dont think most dems actually want a depression and tbh i dont think he truly wants that either

Bill Maher is a joke, always has been

Isnt this social media

The whole world benefits for the US Navy patrolling the seas and keeping the shipping lanes safe. We defend every country we have a military base in, which is quite a few. China is building Islands in the South China Sea so that they can claim the entire sea as theirs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1tqTQkC36A

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