a nuclear winter reference 🤔

i just mean the sort of ultra survivalist while similarly open ideals that happened with japan

inherently progressive yet nationalistic

you'd think that with nazi germany and soviet influence, we'd have that wouldn't you? 😛

no

i dont

I think most progress requires nationalism.

because neither is inherently interpreted as the potential of absolute annihilation

only japan had to deal with that

i think you should brush up on your history of communism

You reduce your ability to control your own commerce if you do not have some healthy degree of nationalism.

and arguably only finland on account of sucking both USSR and UN penis had to deal with that (through different means but kinda similar)

they knew if anything went wrong eitherway everything was fucked

everyone knew that

meanwhile japan knew how bad it would be if anything went wrong (even if it "only" happened to 2 cities)

you don't really "know" tho

*you* don't

you have no ability to comprehend it unless its local

Actually, how many people expected the atomic bomb?

ohnoz, an appeal to authority from a guy on the internet

you had it as some fun fun 99 balloons concept

you didn't have it as a actual concept

There was a race between the US and Germany, but how many people even had any idea of nuclear weapons at the time?

something to have night terrors over

I mean, it's not really obvious that a nuclear weapon would work.

the only two nation that did were finland and japan in my estimate, with 2nd being Russia and US

and you base this on what? cuz i LIVE in western europe now?

>western european pretending they know everything meme

<:think:420544662886023198>

So cantankerous today.

no, you're claiming i am cuz i said i live in the netherlands

You live in the Netherlands?

I do

i love the netherlands but you guys are basically a utopia

its very flat

Why would you do such a thing?

you don't understand shit about dying with your face in the dirt

and you apparently don't understand shit about migration

I never said i lived in the netherlands all my life

if that was important then say that

dummy