...that's not what I was asking about, but OK, nevermind.

Movement of goods is the real wealth

Keep it up where it is disrupted and you will get rewarded

@Big Krunkus Yes but it's a price i'm willing to pay.

The western addiction to cheaply manufactured goods is comparable to a heroin addict. It needs to stop because the harm it does far outweighs the harm of stopping cold turkey.

@Big Krunkus If the Brexiteers could choose to leave the EU even in the face of taking financial hits, than so can the western world, leaving trade deals with China (who is by any standard EVEN WORSE than the EU)

Withdrawal will hurt. But it is worth it

I'm not sure china is worse than the EU, it's a different evil, but not necessarily a worse one

Everything in time

Right now it's china

We need to undo the scam that is belt and road too somehow

China has no right to buy ports and roads abroad. That's expansion and conquest.

That's an act of war for all I care

Regarding the Uygurs... It would've been one thing if China just cracked down on their cultural practices.

After all, a society has to maintain the right to decide which cultural practices are permitted or not.

So if all they did was like, say, ban the construction of Mosques and the sale and distribution of Quran's it would've been one thing.

But the Chinese are going way overboard. Blackbagging people in the middle of the night and shipping them off to actual concentration camps to be tortured until they're minds are shattered enough to embrace communism, as well as Chinese soldiers raping Uygur women being sent to the camps and Han Chinese men being instructed to live with the Uygur women and forcibly procreate with them.

A smidge too far...

I find it particularly funny that china is now selling the "humanitarian aid" boxes of masks and sanitiser

And chinese nationals spit into those boxes too

As if they haven't damged their reputaion enough already

@Hommedaction It's definitely worse, because for most of the EU's policies they're not out to actively hurt other economies, like the Chinese are.

Let's ignore the med the last 15 years shall we??

EU is a cunt, but EU is not a fascist soviet nightmare that is CCP

China is def worse than the EU

They have a military and more unity

I am not sure why the world is doing "Hitler appeasement 2.0"

they aren't a fractioned group with history

thats the EUs biggest weakness

YET

the nation states themselves and we are seeing now how Germany reacts

like a selfish cunt..

which is not really all that ground breaking of news to anyone with sense

EU's problem is that the EU govt decided that they are the monarch
but nationstate members never agreed to that

Germany did disappoint indeed

^

Corona pulled out the ugly of the uglies in every state

Its germany

they dont have a great track record of unity...

XD

Until a boi with chaplin moustache comes into play

" hey you know that country that the whole fucking world went to war with, TWICE, yea lets make them the head leader of this project "

>.<

oof

Well, that's kinda a form of appeasement again

Let the whiny kid have his empire